From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Jul 8 13:12:20 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE6B9D3E8; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:12:14 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE6CE4A3B; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:12:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE67ED1E2; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:07:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:07:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Dug Song To: geeks@monkey.org Cc: rees@umich.edu, openbsd-mobile@monkey.org, nirva@ishiboo.com Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: IP: New smaller VAIO to launch early next year in Japan Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk definitely check out the RealVideo link. overall size comparable to the libretto, but the keyboard looks bigger (something like my portege). ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 15:37:59 -0500 To: ip-sub-1@majordomo.pobox.com From: Dave Farber Subject: IP: New smaller VAIO to launch early next year in Japan Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:33:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ole J. Jacobsen" To: David Farber Dave, I found this at http://ogrady.com/: Thin, Light and Outta-Sight During Windows World Expo Tokyo '98, Sony showed off their new mini-notebook VAIO PC which had a CCD camera built-in and and FireWire. It will be bundled with Windows 98 and would likely ship at the end of the year. Price to be announced at a later date. Thanks to the Mac Treasure Tracing Club. Photo: http://biztech.nikkeibp.co.jp/biztech/image/photo/PC2.jpg Real Video of the presentation (Japanese): http://itv.ascii.co.jp/meta/newvaio_56.ram You're gonna want one! Ole Ole J. Jacobsen | || || | Editor and Publisher | || || | The Internet Protocol Journal | |||| |||| | Tel: +1 408-527-8972 | ..:||||||:..:||||||:.. | e-mail: ole@cisco.com | C i s c o S y s t e m s | See you at INET'98, Geneva, 21-24 July, 1998 http://www.isoc.org/inet98 From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Thu Jul 9 11:20:13 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE52CEE3A; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:20:12 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE50CD439; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:20:10 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from blizzard.wise.edt.ericsson.se (blizzard-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se 194.237.142.2) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE4E42958; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic.era-a.ericsson.se (nic.era-a.ericsson.se [147.214.165.220]) by blizzard.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/glacier-1.11) with ESMTP id NAA12108; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:57:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mho.era-a.ericsson.se.ericsson.se (mho.era-a.ericsson.se [147.214.165.130]) by nic.era-a.ericsson.se (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA16362; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:56:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mho.era-a.ericsson.se by mho.era-a.ericsson.se.ericsson.se (4.1/client-1.5) id AA01774; Thu, 9 Jul 98 13:57:16 +0200 Message-Id: <9807091157.AA01774@mho.era-a.ericsson.se.ericsson.se> To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org From: mho@stacken.kth.se Cc: mho@stacken.kth.se Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: List? Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:57:15 +0200 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Toshiba Satellite 105CS and Toshiba Portégé 660CT both work great except suspend/resume. (APM works well enough for battery status and power-off, but if I suspend, resume fails...) - mho -- Magnus Holmberg mho@era-a.ericsson.se mho@stacken.kth.se From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Thu Jul 9 11:49:44 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE57D07AF; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:49:43 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE56B968E; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:49:41 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from mail.9netave.com (mail.9netave.com 208.215.74.4) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE5283673; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from script.9netave.com (mickey@script.9netave.com [208.215.74.242]) by mail.9netave.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17885; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mickey@localhost) by script.9netave.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06737; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:31:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Shalayeff Message-Id: <199807091531.LAA06737@script.9netave.com> Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: List? In-Reply-To: <9807091157.AA01774@mho.era-a.ericsson.se.ericsson.se> from "mho@stacken.kth.se" at "Jul 9, 98 01:57:15 pm" To: mho@stacken.kth.se Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from mho@stacken.kth.se: > > Toshiba Satellite 105CS and Toshiba Portégé 660CT both work > great except suspend/resume. (APM works well enough for battery > status and power-off, but if I suspend, resume fails...) re yep, that's known thing for some laptops, w/o one i can't fix it. another problem known is apm data segment being allocated in the low memory (like in the [01] page), which is impossible to map w/ the current machdep and pmap srcs, but i have an mods for that fix, which are available for testing in ftp://cvs.openbsd.org/tmp/floppy_apm.fs if you see that file, it's an install floppy image: dd if=floppy_apm.fs of=/dev/rfd0a and boot it, see if you got an apm0 device detected and record failures, autoconfig messages, etc. (it's not there now, the floppy will appear no sooner that friday night ;) 10x cu From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Thu Jul 9 11:54:59 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE57A2F3B; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:54:59 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE5686277; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:54:57 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE562AEBC; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:54:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:54:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Dug Song To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: administrivia: list archives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk raw archives of this list are up at http://www.monkey.org/openbsd-mobile/archive/ in the coming weeks, i'll set it up with a searchable web interface, like http://www.monkey.org/geeks/archive/ -d. --- http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/ From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Sat Jul 11 11:06:16 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEA35ADB5; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:06:16 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE9E452BF; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:06:14 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from netra.olimpo.com.br (unknown 200.240.17.2) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE744C6C9; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 21:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (net220.olimpo.com.br [200.224.105.220]) by netra.olimpo.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA00033; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:54:11 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <00c001bdac76$29ea9600$a069e0c8@default> From: "Federico G. Schwindt" To: "Steve Slater" , Cc: , Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Re: internal modem on laptop Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:46:45 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I have the same problem in my TI Extensa 390CD notebook. My modem is PCTel, and they have no plans to release drivers for any other OS than Win95/NT. So the best choice for you is get a pcmcia modem, and be sure that your pcmcia controller is currently supported. That's what I'm going to do. Federico Schwindt.- >Thanks for the feedback. I belive this 56k modem is a >software implementation modem, not a real modem in the >laptop. Does anyone know a way around that hurdle? > >Thanks, > >Steve > >------------- > >What do you mean not supported? It's showing up! If you got a message >like "not configured" it means you can't use it, but it looks like >/dev/cua01 will work fine for you. > >-Jon > >On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Steve Slater wrote: > >:Is there any type of support for an internal modem >:on a laptop (in this case, toshiba 550cdt)? At boot >:it finds the modem and I get this: >: >:pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3: ns8250, no fifo >: >:Can I safely assume this is not supported? Does anyone >:know what would be involved in getting it working? Any >:other BSDs have this support? >: >:Thanks, >: >:Steve > From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Sun Jul 12 04:33:11 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE7FDC671; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:33:10 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE7D15A64; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:33:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from fries.net (lighthouse.fries.net 209.176.136.225) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE7D476FB; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:30:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from todd@localhost) by fries.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id DAA04122; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:28:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980712032819.11541@fries.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:28:19 -0500 From: "Todd T. Fries" To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: migration Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I've a portable sparc (ok you could call it luggable) .. RDI to be specific, and the thing about networking and being mobile generally means that even if you do tunnel back to your home network via ipsec or tcp/ppp or other method you generally have to at your physical location of the day connect to a lan that is a different subnet / network than you were the last time you powered on your portable. I find editing files in /etc rather tiring after about the 2nd or third time to remember to change the hashes for dns and change /etc/hostname.le0 and such. So what I came up with to deal with this was partially spawned from the Solaris's /etc/inet subdirectory. In Solaris (rev's unknown) the file /etc/hosts is a link to /etc/inet/hosts. Hrm, I thought, why not have /etc/hosts a link to /etc/inet/current/hosts and have /etc/inet/current a link to /etc/inet/ ? .. so I have in /etc: $ ls -l | grep inet lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 27 Apr 13 00:10 hostname.le0 -> ./inet/current/hostname.le0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20 Apr 13 00:10 hosts -> ./inet/current/hosts lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24 May 2 17:05 ifaliases -> ./inet/current/ifaliases drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 512 May 10 13:20 inet -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2293 Apr 7 11:01 inetd.conf lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21 Apr 13 00:11 mygate -> ./inet/current/mygate lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21 Apr 13 00:11 myname -> ./inet/current/myname lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 26 Apr 13 00:11 resolv.conf -> ./inet/current/resolv.conf lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 26 Apr 13 00:11 sendmail.cf -> ./inet/current/sendmail.cf $ .. I've also noticed that if the machine is a yp slave you have to put in /etc/ifaliases for the target networks not the 'home ip' an ifalias for the 'home ip'... So this is my solution to the problem. What have other people done to meet this challenge? -- Todd Fries .. toddf@acm.org From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Sun Jul 12 10:18:08 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE98B2865; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:18:07 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE9784170; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:18:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from corinne.cpio.org (corinne.cpio.org 209.218.145.10) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE7F012F6; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28506 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Jul 1998 09:03:21 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Joseph Max Katz" X-Sender: jkatz@corinne To: "Todd T. Fries" Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: migration In-Reply-To: <19980712032819.11541@fries.net> Message-ID: X-Silly-Sender: Mr. Potatoe Head Organization: CPIO Network Security MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Re, We have an Ultra 1 at my office which goes out to do demos a lot, but we still need it on our network when it comes back. I made up two directories-- one w/ the /etc files that it needs for the road, and the other with the files it needs for the office. All my marketing wonks have to do is run a script "away.sh" or "home.sh" which sets things up appropriately. -Jon /----------------------------------------------------------------/ / J. Joseph Max Katz jkatz@darpanet.net / / Chief Executive Officer http://www.cpio.net / / CPIO Networks (408) 569-7092 / / "My therapist said that I should treat every day as my last. / / I stiffed him." / /----------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Sun Jul 12 10:18:26 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE9BA13CA; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:18:25 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE98B7440; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:18:23 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from corinne.cpio.org (corinne.cpio.org 209.218.145.10) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE7F9E3F6; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:57:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23526 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Jul 1998 09:05:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:05:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Joseph Max Katz" X-Sender: jkatz@corinne To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Stuff to add to list Message-ID: X-Silly-Sender: Mr. Potatoe Head Organization: CPIO Network Security MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Hola, The NEC Versa V/50 works pretty well, provided the CMOS battery isn't flakey and you install the bootblocks for LBA as opposed to CHS :) Also, in the arena of network cards, the "D-Link PCMCIA Adapter" which is based on the NE2k's works a charm. -Jon From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Sun Jul 12 12:28:41 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE84BEF8A; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:28:40 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE4BEAAAA; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:28:39 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from citi.umich.edu (citi.umich.edu 141.211.92.141) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CEA3C812A; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from citi.umich.edu [141.211.170.97] by citi.umich.edu for toddf@acm.org openbsd-mobile@monkey.org with SMTP; Sun, 12 Jul 98 11:43:34 -0400 From: Jim Rees To: "Todd T. Fries" Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:43:32 -0400 Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: migration In-Reply-To: "Todd T. Fries", Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:28:19 CDT Message-Id: <19980712154401.CEA3C812A@naughty.monkey.org> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I find editing files in /etc rather tiring after about the 2nd or third time to remember to change the hashes for dns and change /etc/hostname.le0 and such. I don't understand the part about dns. Why does that have to change? For the rest of it, you haven't really solved the problem in a general way. A machine can have its ip address change not only at boot time, but at any arbitrary time. We have hacked up various solutions over the years but never came up with anything completely satisfactory. We separate the problem into two parts; disconnecting, and reconnecting, and have scripts that do both. For disconnect, we bring down the interface (we don't deal with multiple interfaces) and remove all routes (I fixed the route command so it really does this). Reconnect does the reverse. If your interface is ppp, pppd will do most of this for you. /etc/netstart really needs to be split into two parts, one that does all the stuff you want to do at boot time, like starting daemons, and another that actually brings up the network. The part that brings up the network should be parameterized better than it is now, so only one file needs to be edited when the address changes. And we need /etc/netstop. This is harder than it sounds because you really want to do it without confusing people. And you want it to be as flexible as possible, dealing with dhcp, ppp, etc. Then there are all those little things like xntpd that assume your ip address never changes. They all need to be fixed too. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Mon Jul 13 01:51:08 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEA1D8490; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:51:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE9EC8F40; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:51:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from corinne.cpio.org (corinne.cpio.org 209.218.145.10) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE6B06297; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2621 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Jul 1998 04:19:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:19:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Joseph Max Katz" X-Sender: jkatz@corinne To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Re: 3com (fwd) Message-ID: X-Silly-Sender: Mr. Potatoe Head Organization: CPIO Network Security MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Here's another card that works.... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:10:08 -0400 From: Jeremy Heffner To: Reverend Chris Cappuccio Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: 3com In message Reverend Chris Capp uccio mumbled > >Which 3com cards are not supported? 3c509b or 3c905b? 3c509 works just dandily for me.. isa, isapnp, and pcmcia.. (oh yeah, gotta get on that ''mobile'' list..) -jeremy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeremy Heffner -- heffner@darkness.net Darkness Network Engineering PGP public key available on request My thoughts and opinions represent no one but myself --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Jul 14 13:42:54 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEC5BF07C; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:42:53 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEC6A0448; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:42:50 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEC575991; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:42:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:42:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Dug Song To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: new mailing list archive Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk thanks to Hank Leininger for adding openbsd-mobile to MARC: http://www.progressive-comp.com/Lists/?l=openbsd-mobile&r=1&w=2#openbsd-mobile -d. --- http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/ From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Jul 14 14:17:40 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEDB07269; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:17:40 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEDAB53A0; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:17:37 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from ian.axess.net (ian.axess.net 205.247.138.1) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CED6AF75C; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dfe@localhost) by ian.axess.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA25059 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:09:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:09:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Elznic Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Any list of supported machines and cards? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Is thier any list of what machines work and what cards work? I have a TI 610CD and want to get OpenBSD up and running on it. Also i have a 3com ethernet/modem combo card. Anybody have this card working? It is supposed to be able to use the modem and network simultaeously... From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Jul 14 14:44:39 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEDD4CDA6; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:44:38 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CED2EB6A0; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:44:36 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from corinne.cpio.org (corinne.cpio.org 209.218.145.10) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CED2B35F7; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8219 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Jul 1998 18:49:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:49:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Joseph Max Katz" X-Sender: jkatz@corinne To: Doug Elznic Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Any list of supported machines and cards? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Silly-Sender: Mr. Potatoe Head Organization: CPIO Network Security MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Check www.cpio.net/openbsd/laptops. There is some info there. I need to add some more. -Jon /----------------------------------------------------------------/ / J. Joseph Max Katz jkatz@darpanet.net / / Chief Executive Officer http://www.cpio.net / / CPIO Networks (408) 569-7092 / / "My therapist said that I should treat every day as my last. / / I stiffed him." / /----------------------------------------------------------------/ On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Doug Elznic wrote: :Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:09:47 -0400 (EDT) :From: Doug Elznic :Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org :Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Any list of supported machines and cards? : :Is thier any list of what machines work and what cards work? I have a TI :610CD and want to get OpenBSD up and running on it. Also i have a 3com :ethernet/modem combo card. Anybody have this card working? It is supposed :to be able to use the modem and network simultaeously... : : : : : From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Jul 14 15:29:26 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CED2EC77E; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:29:26 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CECEA993B; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:29:23 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CECE72768; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:25:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:25:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Dug Song Reply-To: Dug Song To: Jim Rees Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: migration In-Reply-To: <19980712154401.CEA3C812A@naughty.monkey.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Jim Rees wrote: > I don't understand the part about dns. Why does that have to change? e.g. if your home subnet uses internal DNS behind a firewall. anyone willing to share the hacks they've written to handle migrating between different subnets? should we look at really changing /etc/netstart, and adding an /etc/netstop? it's a shame mobile ip is so dumb. -d. --- http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/ From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Jul 15 01:10:56 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE7F7169F; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:10:56 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE594EFE1; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:10:54 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from netra.olimpo.com.br (netra.olimpo.com.br 200.240.17.2) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CECE201F0; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (net173.olimpo.com.br [200.224.105.173]) by netra.olimpo.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA15264; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:00:11 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <000401bdafac$f31f6a80$ad69e0c8@default> From: "Federico G. Schwindt" To: "Michael Shalayeff" , Cc: Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: List? Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 01:56:33 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk >current machdep and pmap srcs, but i have an mods for that fix, which >are available for testing in ftp://cvs.openbsd.org/tmp/floppy_apm.fs I've just downloaded the file and it doesnt work. This is the dmesg output for apm: apminfo: f0102, code fb500/f0000[102], data 400[c00], entry 0 apm: f0102 apm at bios0 function 0x15 not configured I think that the problem is other, at least in my case. By the way, my notebook reports: "Acer Labs M7101 Power Management Controller" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 not configured Maybe this info helps. Cheers, Federico Schwindt.- -- Soon you will meet the dark side of openbsd. Federico G. Schwindt fgsch@olimpo.com.br From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Jul 28 21:30:13 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE71759CF; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:30:13 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE5F5AC0B; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:30:11 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from ohaton.cs.ualberta.ca (ohaton.cs.ualberta.ca 129.128.13.3) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE5F98644; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17436 invoked by uid 17); 29 Jul 1998 00:45:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19980729004508.17434.qmail@ohaton.cs.ualberta.ca> Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: getting OpenBSD to give me an interface To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:45:08 -0600 (MDT) From: "John Bartoszewski" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Hello there, I just got to this list, so if there is an archive of postings that may answer my question that have been saved, I would sure like a pointer/URL. I have a Toshiba T4600C laptop (486 DX33, 12M RAM) (this is a second hand machine I got yesterday) with a PCMCIA type 1 (slot 1, slot 0 is a 16mm slot, can one still get 16mm PCMCIA cards?). PCMCIA slot 1 has a Linksys, EtherFast 10/100 Card in it. I have been able to get the ethernet card to work under DOS. Under DOS I get: Packet interrupt number 0x62 (98) I/O address 0x320 (800) Interrupt number 0xB (11) Real I/O address 0x300 (768) Real interrupt number 0x5 (5) Node Address is 00 e0 98 00 F3 FF So I try to get it working under the OpenBSD install floppy (trying to do a net install, as I have no CR-ROM in it). A uninterrupted boot does not give me an interface, but it does detect the card. So I 'boot -c' UKC> add ed0 Clone Device (DevNo, 'q' or '?') ? 68 Insert before Device (DevNo, 'q' or '?') ? 63 63 ed0 at pcmcia* port 0x300 size 0x20 iomem -1 iosiz 0 irq 10 drq -1 slot -1 UKC> change 63 63 ed0 at pcmcia* port 0x300 size 0x20 iomem -1 iosiz 0 irq 10 drq -1 slot -1 change (y/n) ? y port [0x300] ? size [0x20] ? iomem [-1] ? iosiz [0] ? irq [10] ? 5 drq [-1] ? slot [-1] ? 1 63 ed0 changed 63 ed0 at pcmcia* port 0x300 size 0x20 iomem -1 iosiz 0 irq 5 drq -1 slot 1 UKC> list ... 62 fd* at fdc0 drive -1 63 ed0 at pcmcia* port 0x300 size 0x20 iomem -1 iosiz 0 irq 5 drq -1 slot 1 64 ed0 at isa0 port 0x200 size 0 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 0 irq 9 drq -1 pnpid -l 65 ed1 at isa0 port 0x250 size 0 iomem 0xd8000 iosiz 0 irq 9 drq -1 pnpid -l 66 ed2 at isa0 port 0x300 size 0 iomem 0xcc000 iosiz 0 irq 10 drq -1 pnpid -l 67 ed3 at isa0 port 0x240 size 0 iomem 0xd8000 iosiz 0 irq 9 drq -1 pnpid -l 68 ed* at pci* dev -1 fuction -1 69 ed* pcmcia* port 0x300 size 0x20 iomem -1 iosiz 0 irq 10 drq -1 slot -1 ... UKC> quit ... pcicmaster0 at isa0 port 0x3e0-0x3e1 pcic0 at pcicmaster0: Intel 83265sl Rev. 1 slots 0-1 iomem d4000-d4fff irq 11 pcmcia0 at pcic0 pcmcia0 slot 1: pccom3 at pcmcia0 port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 3: ns8250, no fifo npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0-oxff: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4: ns16450, no fifo pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3: ns8250, no fifo vt0 at isa0 port 0c60-0x6f irq 1: eneric VGA, 80 col, color, 8 scr, mf2-kbd fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3fo-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MV 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec biomask 4040 netmask 4040 ttymask 4842 rd0: fixed, 4046 blocks rootdev=0x1100 rrootdev=0x2f00 rawdev=0x2f02 WARNING: no swap space found Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh: Hummm no interface ed0. Any ideas? Is there a man page or something else that describes what (in the UKC), size, iomem, iosiz, and drq are? ('man boot_config is close', but it's not very helpful in definitions). Thanks, John ---- John Bartoszewski Email: johnb@ugrad.cs.ualberta.ca Senior Systems/Security Administrator .----------------------------------. Instructional Laboratories : Some people like to be outraged. : Department of Computing Science : It makes them feel significant. : University of Alberta, Canada `._ - Edward de Bono _.' From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Jul 29 13:43:49 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEEA0AAD0; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:43:48 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEE67EA08; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:43:43 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from ohaton.cs.ualberta.ca (ohaton.cs.ualberta.ca 129.128.13.3) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CEAEB597F; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16868 invoked by uid 17); 29 Jul 1998 17:31:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19980729173125.16866.qmail@ohaton.cs.ualberta.ca> Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: getting OpenBSD to give me an interface To: johnb@ugrad.cs.ualberta.ca (John Bartoszewski) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:31:25 -0600 (MDT) From: "John Bartoszewski" Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org In-Reply-To: <19980729004508.17434.qmail@ohaton.cs.ualberta.ca> from "John Bartoszewski" at Jul 28, 98 06:45:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I've been doing some experiments with other free UNIXs and my Toshiba T4600C laptop with it's Linksys, EtherFast 10/100 Card. The experiments were to determine which systems could let me install with it. OpenBSD: Detected the card, but did not configure an interface. Sideways thumb. FreeBSD: Did not detect card. The kernel config screen was funky, but the install splash screen cutting off the last booting messages was a pain. That and no way of getting a shell prompt made this an experience to forget. Thumb down. NetBSD: Again a stupid splash screen so I miss the last boot messages. I does have a "Configure Network" option that told me that there was no interface. Better then FreeBSD, but still disappointing. Thumb down. RedHat: Install worked. Was able to get the ethernet card to be configured and started a FTP install. Install interface reminds me of kindergarten. Thumb up, but it's covered in many easy to read colours. So, defeated, I submit the horror that is Red Hat and hope that one day I can purge this OS and install OpenBSD to it's proper place. I might look into the OpenBSD drivers and try to fix the problem myself but not this year ;) Thanks, John ---- John Bartoszewski Email: johnb@ugrad.cs.ualberta.ca Senior Systems/Security Administrator .----------------------------------. Instructional Laboratories : Some people like to be outraged. : Department of Computing Science : It makes them feel significant. : University of Alberta, Canada `._ - Edward de Bono _.' From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Fri Jul 31 16:39:22 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CFA95536D; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:39:22 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CF89EDEDD; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:39:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from netra.olimpo.com.br (netra.olimpo.com.br 200.240.17.2) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CEAC1D4D4; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 22:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (tscuy06-ppp17.starnet.net.ar [200.26.4.185]) by netra.olimpo.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA08328; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:39:18 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <000301bdbc34$60dc1800$b9041ac8@default> From: "Federico G. Schwindt" To: "John Bartoszewski" Cc: Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: getting OpenBSD to give me an interface Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:36:09 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk > >I've been doing some experiments with other free UNIXs and my >Toshiba T4600C laptop with it's Linksys, EtherFast 10/100 Card. >The experiments were to determine which systems could let me install >with it. > >OpenBSD: Detected the card, but did not configure an interface. > Sideways thumb. > The PCMCIA support for OpenBSD is... hmmm... ugly, IMHO. I've been playing with the code adding support for CardBus controllers (at least for the TI113X compatible series; btw is more or less working) and I've found lot of odd things. I have the same problem with my new modem (a cheap zoltrix 56K) and I'm currently working on it. One thing you can do is recompile your kernel adding 'option PCMCIA_DEBUG' and 'option PCMCIA_ISA_DEBUG' to your config file. This gonna give you/us a better idea of what's going on. If you get a compilation error in /dev/sys/isa/pcmcia_isa.c in line 153, apply the following patch: --- pcmcia_isa.c Thu Jul 30 20:01:58 1998 +++ pcmcia_isa.c.ori Thu Jul 30 20:01:44 1998 @@ -150,7 +150,7 @@ #ifdef PCMCIA_ISA_DEBUG printf("pcmcia probe %x %x %p\n", ia.ia_iobase, ia.ia_irq, - probe == NULL ? cf->cf_attach->ca_match : probe); + probe == NULL ? (void *)cf->cf_attach->ca_match : probe); printf("parentname = %s\n", parent->dv_xname); printf("devname = %s\n", dev->dv_xname); printf("driver name = %s\n", cf->cf_driver->cd_name); >FreeBSD: Did not detect card. The kernel config screen was funky, but > the install splash screen cutting off the last booting messages > was a pain. That and no way of getting a shell prompt made > this an experience to forget. > Thumb down. > You can try with the PAO FreeBSD Mobile Computing Package. Check http://jaz.jp.freebsd.org/PAO/ for more information. In FreeBSD you can go to the last booting messages pressing scroll lock and moving with the arrow/pgup,pgdw keys. In you check the installation menu there is an option to spawn a shell. >NetBSD: Again a stupid splash screen so I miss the last boot messages. > I does have a "Configure Network" option that told me that there > was no interface. Better then FreeBSD, but still disappointing. > Thumb down. > If I'm not wrong, NetBSD doesnt have pcmcia support compiled in the generic kernel. >RedHat: Install worked. Was able to get the ethernet card to be configured > and started a FTP install. Install interface reminds me of > kindergarten. > Thumb up, but it's covered in many easy to read colours. > >So, defeated, I submit the horror that is Red Hat and hope that one day >I can purge this OS and install OpenBSD to it's proper place. > >I might look into the OpenBSD drivers and try to fix the problem myself >but not this year ;) > Good luck, Federico Schwindt.- -- Soon you will meet the dark side of openbsd. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Fri Jul 31 16:39:37 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CFAB474DE; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:39:37 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CFA92851D; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:39:35 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from netra.olimpo.com.br (netra.olimpo.com.br 200.240.17.2) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CEE9D8008; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (tscuy06-ppp17.starnet.net.ar [200.26.4.185]) by netra.olimpo.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA13285 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:57:21 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <000801bdbc3f$46f70fc0$b9041ac8@default> From: "Federico G. Schwindt" To: Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: TI Extensa 390CD Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:54:14 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Just wanna add this to the records: Model: TI Extensa 390CD - Pentium 166 - 32M. ATAPI CD-ROM. Video: Chips & Technologies 65555 - AFAIK there is a server for this card but I'm not currently using X PCMCIA controller: TI1250 - Working in legacy (16-bit) mode (cardbus mode not supported) Internal modem: PCTel HSP 33.6 - Not supported (software driven - no driver available) PCMCIA cards: SlimSCSI 1450B (aka 1460) - Not supported. Needs the aic driver. Zoltrix 56K (Lucent-Venus-PCMCIA 56K DataFax) - Not working. That is. I'm currently trying to port the pcmcia aic driver from NetBSD. Federico Schwindt.- -- Soon you will meet the dark side of openbsd.