From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 3 23:38:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id E3B58115A6; Thu, 3 May 2001 23:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 290801159A; Thu, 3 May 2001 23:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from citi.umich.edu (citi.umich.edu [141.211.92.141]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B15115B6 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:15:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from citi.umich.edu (bantayan.citi.umich.edu [141.211.92.169]) by citi.umich.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72953207C1 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:15:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: 3c574 problems? To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org From: Jim Rees Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 19:15:48 -0400 Message-Id: <20010503231548.72953207C1@citi.umich.edu> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Is there some problem with the 3c574? I just got one and there is obviously some kind of timeout problem. The mouse is very jerky and the clock skews at a rate of about 50%. This all clears up if I ifconfig the interface down. This is on a Thinkpad 240. Note that cardbus support doesn't work on the 240 so I've disabled it. A 3c589 in the same machine works fine. A Wavelan suffers some clock skew but I think that's a different problem. OpenBSD 2.8 (TP240) #7: Thu May 3 18:51:45 EDT 2001 rees@bantayan:/afs/citi.umich.edu/machdep/i386_obsd28/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/TP240 cpu0: Intel Pentium II (Celeron) ("GenuineIntel" 686-class, 0KB L2 cache) 299 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SYS,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR real mem = 200847360 (196140K) avail mem = 183582720 (179280K) using 2477 buffers containing 10145792 bytes (9908K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(cf) BIOS, date 07/29/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd7c0 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 99% apm0: AC on, battery charge high, estimated 0:16 hours WARNING: preposterous time in file system WARNING: file system time much less than clock time pcibios0 at bios0: rev. 2.1 found at 0xfd7c0[0x840] pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev. 1.0 found at 0xfdf60, size 128 bytes (6 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 ("Intel 82371FB (Triton) PCI-ISA" rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus WARNING: can't reserve area for I/O APIC. pci_addr_fixup: 000:10:0 0x104c 0xac1e new address 0x0c000000 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82443BX" rev 0x03 pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA" rev 0x02 pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "Intel 82371AB IDE (PIIX4)" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: wd0: can use 32-bit, PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 6194MB, 13424 cyl, 15 head, 63 sec, 12685680 sectors pciide0: channel 0 interrupting at irq 14 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 (using DMA data transfers) "Intel 82371AB USB (PIIX4)" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 not configured "Intel 82371AB Power Management (PIIX4)" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 not configured "Neomagic Magicgraph NM2160" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 not configured "Texas Instruments PCI1211 PCI-CardBus" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 not configured eso0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "ESS SOLO-1 AudioDrive" rev 0x02: ES1946 rev E, irq 5 eso0: mapping Audio 1 DMA using VC I/O space at 0xfc70 audio0 at eso0 opl0 at eso0: model OPL3 midi0 at opl0: "AT&T/Lucent Win Modem V.90" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 not configured isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 midi1 at pcppi0: sysbeep0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo vt0 at isa0 port 0x60/16 irq 1: vga 80 col, color, 6 scr, mf2-kbd pms0 at vt0 irq 12 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd0000/65536 pcic0 controller 0: has sockets A and B pcmcia0 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 0 ep0 at pcmcia0 function 0 "3Com, Megahertz 574B, B" port 0x340/32 irq 4: address 00:50:04:8b:0b:19 tqphy0 at ep0 phy 0: 78Q2120 10/100 media interface, rev. 10 pcmcia1 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 1 pcic0: irq 9, polling enabled biomask 4040 netmask 4050 ttymask 52d2 pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support dkcsum: wd0 matched BIOS disk 80 rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302 AFS 3.3 ($Revision: 1.7 $) lkm loaded DDB symbols added: 79512 bytes Starting AFS cache scan...Setting chunk size to 2^18...disconnected...found 671 non-empty cache files (6%). Starting vcache scan...found 1170 out of 19200 (4800 in mem) From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Sun May 6 01:35:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id DFC65115E1; Sun, 6 May 2001 01:35:55 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A433C115E0; Sun, 6 May 2001 01:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bobomobo.cwru.edu (bobomobo.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu [129.22.244.57]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5862115E1 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 01:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from adam@localhost) by bobomobo.cwru.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA04212 for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org; Sun, 6 May 2001 01:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 01:32:14 -0400 From: adam morley To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: powerbook g4 ti with openbsd? Message-ID: <20010506013214.M913@bobomobo.cwru.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I don't know if you folks deal with non-i386 stuff, but I was wondering if any of you knew whether the powerbook g4 ti (brand new on) could run openbsd. also, do things like IR, wireless network cards, hibernation, battery hot swap work? what about the HDTV style screen (1152x768?) I guess thats more of an X question though. Thanks -- thanks adam From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Sun May 6 09:54:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id EDF0C115CD; Sun, 6 May 2001 09:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2DE24115CC; Sun, 6 May 2001 09:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from openbsd.reichardt.ch (openbsd.reichardt.ch [213.189.136.118]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157C6115CC for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 08:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dhartmei@localhost) by openbsd.reichardt.ch (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f46C9ZO20899 for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org; Sun, 6 May 2001 14:09:35 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:09:35 +0200 From: Daniel Hartmeier To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: powerbook g4 ti with openbsd? Message-ID: <20010506140934.A10243@openbsd.reichardt.ch> References: <20010506013214.M913@bobomobo.cwru.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010506013214.M913@bobomobo.cwru.edu>; from axm135@po.cwru.edu on Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:32:14AM -0400 Organization: Reichardt Informatik AG Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:32:14AM -0400, adam morley wrote: > I don't know if you folks deal with non-i386 stuff, but I was wondering if any of you knew whether the powerbook g4 ti (brand new on) could run openbsd. As far as I know, yes. I don't have a Ti, but I run OpenBSD on powerpc (iMac) for a while now, and it's very useable, even if it's maybe not as 'mature' as i386 yet. See http://www.openbsd.org/powerpc.html http://www.openbsd.org/29.html > also, do things like IR, wireless network cards, hibernation, battery hot swap work? > > what about the HDTV style screen (1152x768?) I guess thats more of an X question though. You can join the ppc@openbsd.org mailing list, I'm sure Dale Rahn (which is responsible for the powerpc port of OpenBSD) can answer these questions. I know he does have OpenBSD running on a Ti. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Sun May 6 10:11:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id D07D2115CE; Sun, 6 May 2001 10:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 99193115CD; Sun, 6 May 2001 10:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fluff.framfab.se (fluff.framfab.se [195.54.104.24]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1C62115CD for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 10:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23430 invoked by uid 569); 6 May 2001 14:01:38 -0000 Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:01:38 +0200 From: Magnus Bodin To: adam morley Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: powerbook g4 ti with openbsd? Message-ID: <20010506160138.B17133@bodin.org> References: <20010506013214.M913@bobomobo.cwru.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010506013214.M913@bobomobo.cwru.edu>; from axm135@po.cwru.edu on Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:32:14AM -0400 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:32:14AM -0400, adam morley wrote: > I don't know if you folks deal with non-i386 stuff, but I was wondering if any of you knew whether the powerbook g4 ti (brand new on) could run openbsd. > > also, do things like IR, wireless network cards, hibernation, battery hot swap work? > > what about the HDTV style screen (1152x768?) I guess thats more of an X question though. Even without testing I would say yes, as it is said by the "What's new"-list for the upcoming (a couple of weeks) 2.9-release: "OpenBSD 2.9 will run on the new Apple Titanium PowerBook G4." /magnus -- :::.. Magnus Bodin :::::::::.. http://x42.com/ ::::::::::::::::::::................ eotlnsawirhdypkgb,f.0m>21:c/4(69)3?857vx Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 7C7141159F; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:31:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B250D11597; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from azrael.israfil.net (unknown [24.68.8.153]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 804CC11594 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5050 invoked from network); 7 May 2001 16:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wotan) (63.86.194.135) by 24.68.8.153 with SMTP; 7 May 2001 16:27:40 -0000 Message-ID: <00d301c0d713$6636ed00$6801c80a@wotan> From: "Christian Edward Gruber" To: "Magnus Bodin" , "adam morley" Cc: References: <20010506013214.M913@bobomobo.cwru.edu> <20010506160138.B17133@bodin.org> Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: powerbook g4 ti with openbsd? Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:32:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk As for 1152x768 and other funny resolutions, XFree86 4.0.3 as delivered with OpenBSD 2.9 should recognize most modlines, particularly from Rage Mobility, and Rage 128 and similar ATI cards. I run X on an inspiron 5000 at 1400x1050 resolution, which is really wacked but very nice. XF4 worked wonders after 4.0.2 If it doesn't, you need to work out a modeline entry. I can't help you with the math there, but there are some web-sites with the proper math available. regards, Christian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magnus Bodin" To: "adam morley" Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:01 AM Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: powerbook g4 ti with openbsd? > On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:32:14AM -0400, adam morley wrote: > > I don't know if you folks deal with non-i386 stuff, but I was wondering if any of you knew whether the powerbook g4 ti (brand new on) could run openbsd. > > > > also, do things like IR, wireless network cards, hibernation, battery hot swap work? > > > > what about the HDTV style screen (1152x768?) I guess thats more of an X question though. > > Even without testing I would say yes, as it is said by the "What's new"-list > for the upcoming (a couple of weeks) 2.9-release: > > "OpenBSD 2.9 will run on the new Apple Titanium PowerBook G4." > > > > /magnus > > -- > :::.. Magnus Bodin > :::::::::.. http://x42.com/ > ::::::::::::::::::::................ > eotlnsawirhdypkgb,f.0m>21:c/4(69)3?857vx > From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Mon May 7 13:41:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id CD6191159B; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EB58911597; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bobomobo.cwru.edu (bobomobo.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu [129.22.244.57]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D232111594 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from adam@localhost) by bobomobo.cwru.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA13440; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:39:29 -0400 From: adam morley To: Christian Edward Gruber Cc: Magnus Bodin , adam morley , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: powerbook g4 ti with openbsd? Message-ID: <20010507123929.I13113@bobomobo.cwru.edu> References: <20010506013214.M913@bobomobo.cwru.edu> <20010506160138.B17133@bodin.org> <00d301c0d713$6636ed00$6801c80a@wotan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00d301c0d713$6636ed00$6801c80a@wotan>; from christian.edward.gruber@gmx.net on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:32:41PM -0400 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:32:41PM -0400, Christian Edward Gruber wrote: > As for 1152x768 and other funny resolutions, XFree86 4.0.3 as delivered with > OpenBSD 2.9 should recognize most modlines, particularly from Rage Mobility, > and Rage 128 and similar ATI cards. I run X on an inspiron 5000 at > 1400x1050 resolution, which is really wacked but very nice. XF4 worked > wonders after 4.0.2 yes, i run an ibm thinkpad t21 at 1400x1050 also. but im really not liking the x86 platform anymore, thats one of the reasons im running off and looking at the g4 running obsd. that and its just so danged cool looking! > > If it doesn't, you need to work out a modeline entry. I can't help you with > the math there, but there are some web-sites with the proper math available. > > regards, > Christian. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Magnus Bodin" > To: "adam morley" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: powerbook g4 ti with openbsd? > > > > On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:32:14AM -0400, adam morley wrote: > > > I don't know if you folks deal with non-i386 stuff, but I was wondering > if any of you knew whether the powerbook g4 ti (brand new on) could run > openbsd. > > > > > > also, do things like IR, wireless network cards, hibernation, battery > hot swap work? > > > > > > what about the HDTV style screen (1152x768?) I guess thats more of an X > question though. > > > > Even without testing I would say yes, as it is said by the "What's > new"-list > > for the upcoming (a couple of weeks) 2.9-release: > > > > "OpenBSD 2.9 will run on the new Apple Titanium PowerBook G4." > > > > > > > > /magnus > > > > -- > > :::.. Magnus Bodin > > :::::::::.. http://x42.com/ > > ::::::::::::::::::::................ > > eotlnsawirhdypkgb,f.0m>21:c/4(69)3?857vx > > > > -- thanks adam any and all ideas herein are the sole property of the author, with no implied warranties or guarantees. unless its somebody else's already. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Mon May 7 13:54:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id EE84B1159C; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 08B9E1159B; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from enchanter.real-time.com (enchanter.real-time.com [208.20.202.11]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FCF1159B for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chrome@localhost) by enchanter.real-time.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f47HrJo16791 for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:53:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:53:18 -0500 From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: powerbook g4 ti with openbsd? Message-ID: <20010507125318.K20043@real-time.com> References: <20010506013214.M913@bobomobo.cwru.edu> <20010506160138.B17133@bodin.org> <00d301c0d713$6636ed00$6801c80a@wotan> <20010507123929.I13113@bobomobo.cwru.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010507123929.I13113@bobomobo.cwru.edu>; from axm135@po.cwru.edu on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:39:29PM -0400 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk > yes, i run an ibm thinkpad t21 at 1400x1050 also. but im really not liking the x86 platform anymore, thats one of the reasons im running off and looking at the g4 running obsd. that and its just so danged cool looking! so what's your solution to the only-one-mouse-button problem? I know some people remap keys to serve as the other two mouse buttons; and obviously you can attach an external device. anyone notice a direct correlation between the number of mouse buttons, and the expected competence of the user? Macs have one button, Windows uses two, Unix has three. I'm thinking about getting a Spaceball or a CAD mouse (16 buttons) just to brag with. :) Carl Soderstrom -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700 From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Mon May 7 14:07:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 1B9461159D; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 075661159C; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bobomobo.cwru.edu (bobomobo.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu [129.22.244.57]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03491159C for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from adam@localhost) by bobomobo.cwru.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA13748 for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:01:58 -0400 From: adam morley To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: powerbook g4 ti with openbsd? Message-ID: <20010507140158.R13113@bobomobo.cwru.edu> References: <20010506013214.M913@bobomobo.cwru.edu> <20010506160138.B17133@bodin.org> <00d301c0d713$6636ed00$6801c80a@wotan> <20010507123929.I13113@bobomobo.cwru.edu> <20010507125318.K20043@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010507125318.K20043@real-time.com>; from chrome@real-time.com on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:53:18PM -0500 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:53:18PM -0500, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > > yes, i run an ibm thinkpad t21 at 1400x1050 also. but im really not liking the x86 platform anymore, thats one of the reasons im running off and looking at the g4 running obsd. that and its just so danged cool looking! > > so what's your solution to the only-one-mouse-button problem? I know some > people remap keys to serve as the other two mouse buttons; and obviously you > can attach an external device. well, ive talked with a linuxppc person and they said its all about the keybindings....so yeah. i guess its keybindings. i might just use some diff bindings (like select, hold-drag-plop for copy, like in solaris' dtterm--aka cde's Terminal). but yeah. i dont use the mouse much anyways. > > anyone notice a direct correlation between the number of mouse buttons, and > the expected competence of the user? Macs have one button, Windows uses > two, Unix has three. i dont know about generalizing like that, its pretty wrong and all, but i might put mac users above windows. after all, it does run a hacked up bsd kernel now. :) > > I'm thinking about getting a Spaceball or a CAD mouse (16 buttons) just to > brag with. :) i actually just got a cad mouse on my sparc box right now. its so precise its amazing. > > Carl Soderstrom > -- > Network Engineer > Real-Time Enterprises > (952) 943-8700 -- thanks adam any and all ideas herein are the sole property of the author, with no implied warranties or guarantees. unless its somebody else's already. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 09:30:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id E1FA9115A9; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED32E115A8; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from openbsd.agero.se (unknown [195.67.9.30]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CEA1159E for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 06:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ger@localhost) by openbsd.agero.se (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f48AqBJ19883; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:52:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: openbsd.agero.se: ger set sender to gustafe@home.se using -f To: OpenBSD Mobile List Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: OpenBSD and 3Com AirConnect Reply-To: Gustaf Erikson From: Gustaf Erikson Date: 08 May 2001 12:52:02 +0200 Message-ID: <87y9s8dsfh.fsf@openbsd.agero.se> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk What is the magic required for getting this card to work? According to wi(4), this card is supported. When I insert it, it is recognized as wi0. When I try to configure an address with dhclient, I get a timeout, and /var/log/messages is filled with stuff like /bsd: wi0: init failed /bsd: wi0: failed to allocate 1594 bytes on NIC /bsd: wi0: tx buffer allocation failed /bsd: wi0: failed to allocate 1594 bytes on NIC /bsd: wi0: mgmt. buffer allocation failed /bsd: wi0: xmit failed /bsd: wi0: device timeout Do I have to run wicontrol(8)? If so, with what parameters? tia, /g. -- Gustaf Erikson -+- +46 70 444 0726 -+- [http://stureby.net/] From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 12:38:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id B69B0115A1; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6E51D115A9; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phear.darq.net (phear.darq.net [213.253.1.14]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AA89115A2 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:29:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12414 invoked by uid 1001); 8 May 2001 15:31:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:31:44 +0100 From: richard airlie To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Success on old 486s? Message-ID: <20010508163143.A30366@darq.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, Does anyone have any idea as to whether any version of OpenBSD will run well on old 486 laptops? Specifically I'm looking at Compaq Contura models 410-430. Important thing would be that it would support 2 pcmcia network cards, as I'd want to use the box as a gateway. Thank you for any info you can provide, kaneda. ps: for the record, i had a page documenting installing openbsd 2.5 on a HP Omnibook 5000cts. feel free to link to it if you feel someone may find it useful: http://www.darq.net/~kaneda/omnibook From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 12:55:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5C9AF115AA; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 62285115A1; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:54:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from citi.umich.edu (citi.umich.edu [141.211.92.141]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F21115A1 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from citi.umich.edu (bantayan.citi.umich.edu [141.211.92.169]) by citi.umich.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26EA207C1 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Success on old 486s? To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org From: Jim Rees In-Reply-To: richard airlie, Tue, 08 May 2001 16:31:44 BST Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 12:54:00 -0400 Message-Id: <20010508165400.D26EA207C1@citi.umich.edu> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk The serial port driver doesn't work well on a 486, and you'll want some minimum amount of memory, probably 16 MB. Other than that it should work fine. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 13:02:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 16E63115AC; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E2311115AA; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from koza.acecape.com (koza2.acecape.com [66.9.36.222]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4E9115AA for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.lucifier.net (versalo.lucifier.net [160.79.161.23]) by koza.acecape.com (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f48Gxnk01262; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mickey@localhost) by mail.lucifier.net (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f48GmEx05531; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:48:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Shalayeff Message-Id: <200105081648.f48GmEx05531@mail.lucifier.net> Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: OpenBSD and 3Com AirConnect In-Reply-To: <87y9s8dsfh.fsf@openbsd.agero.se> from Gustaf Erikson at "May 8, 2001 12:52:02 pm" To: Gustaf Erikson Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:48:14 -0400 (EDT) Cc: OpenBSD Mobile List Reply-To: mickey@lucifier.net X-Operating-System: BSD 2.11 X-Flames-To: /dev/null X-Elm-Rules: righton X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Gustaf Erikson: > What is the magic required for getting this card to work? > > According to wi(4), this card is supported. > > When I insert it, it is recognized as wi0. > > When I try to configure an address with dhclient, I get a timeout, > and /var/log/messages is filled with stuff like > > /bsd: wi0: init failed > /bsd: wi0: failed to allocate 1594 bytes on NIC > /bsd: wi0: tx buffer allocation failed > /bsd: wi0: failed to allocate 1594 bytes on NIC > /bsd: wi0: mgmt. buffer allocation failed > /bsd: wi0: xmit failed > /bsd: wi0: device timeout > > Do I have to run wicontrol(8)? If so, with what parameters? would you consider supplying info on what version of openbsd (if even) you are using, dmesg, and US public notary signed proof that you've done rtfm on www.openbsd.org/report.html ? (; cu -- paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has remained) From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 13:02:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id BBE2E115AC; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC54F115AD; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from koza.acecape.com (koza2.acecape.com [66.9.36.222]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E820115AC for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.lucifier.net (versalo.lucifier.net [160.79.161.23]) by koza.acecape.com (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f48Gxnk18818; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mickey@localhost) by mail.lucifier.net (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f48GgkL04579; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:42:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Shalayeff Message-Id: <200105081642.f48GgkL04579@mail.lucifier.net> Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Success on old 486s? In-Reply-To: <20010508163143.A30366@darq.net> from richard airlie at "May 8, 2001 04:31:44 pm" To: richard airlie Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:42:41 -0400 (EDT) Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Reply-To: mickey@lucifier.net X-Operating-System: BSD 2.11 X-Flames-To: /dev/null X-Elm-Rules: righton X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from richard airlie: > Hi folks, re > Does anyone have any idea as to whether any version of OpenBSD will run well > on old 486 laptops? Specifically I'm looking at Compaq Contura models 410-430. > Important thing would be that it would support 2 pcmcia network cards, as I'd > want to use the box as a gateway. why nots?! i had it running alright as a firewall on old versa 486dx4 100 w/ 12M of memory. there are might be some quirks w/ pcmcia (just maybe). you should try it out, might work very well. > Thank you for any info you can provide, > kaneda. > > ps: for the record, i had a page documenting installing openbsd 2.5 on a > HP Omnibook 5000cts. feel free to link to it if you feel someone may find it > useful: http://www.darq.net/~kaneda/omnibook cu -- paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has remained) From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 13:30:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 933E3115AE; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5738A115AD; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freek.com (freek.com [206.252.131.6]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93CB115AD for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by freek.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id D454D2659; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:25:55 -0400 From: josh To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Success on old 486s? Message-ID: <20010508132555.D10682@freek.com> References: <20010508163143.A30366@darq.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010508163143.A30366@darq.net>; from kaneda@darq.net on Tue, May 08, 2001 at 04:31:44PM +0100 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk richard airlie wrote... > Does anyone have any idea as to whether any version of OpenBSD will run well > on old 486 laptops? Specifically I'm looking at Compaq Contura models 410-430. > Important thing would be that it would support 2 pcmcia network cards, as I'd > want to use the box as a gateway. I'm running OpenBSD 2.7 on an AT&T globalyst laptop. OpenBSD 2.7 (GENERIC) #25: Sat May 13 18:04:26 MDT 2000 deraadt@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel 486DX4 ("GenuineIntel" 486-class) cpu0: FPU,V86 real mem = 24686592 (24108K) avail mem = 18292736 (17864K) works fine as my wavelan gateway box. Installed w/no problems as well (over the network) -- josh From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 13:50:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id AE291115B2; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C932B115AE; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:50:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from citi.umich.edu (citi.umich.edu [141.211.92.141]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E6B115B2 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from citi.umich.edu (bantayan.citi.umich.edu [141.211.92.169]) by citi.umich.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A119A207C1 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Transmeta? To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org From: Jim Rees Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:46:58 -0400 Message-Id: <20010508174658.A119A207C1@citi.umich.edu> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Is there any reason to think OpenBSD might not run on a Transmeta chip? I am thinking in particular of the Casio Fiva mpc-205: http://www.casio.co.jp/mpc/product/ From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 14:22:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 4B0AF115B5; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 737CF115B2; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kata.chezns.org (kata.chezns.org [204.131.199.241]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0FB115B6 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kata.chezns.org (IDENT:jill@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kata.chezns.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f48IBQs18090; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:11:27 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200105081811.f48IBQs18090@kata.chezns.org> To: Jim Rees Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Transmeta? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 May 2001 13:46:58 EDT." <20010508174658.A119A207C1@citi.umich.edu> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 12:11:26 -0600 From: "Jill Lundquist" Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk >Is there any reason to think OpenBSD might not run on a Transmeta chip? I >am thinking in particular of the Casio Fiva mpc-205: Obviously it should work in theory. For more information, I just stepped into the next room and asked one of my housemates who works at Transmeta -- he said that they only do detailed testing on Windows and Linux, but that they do test that one can boot under FreeBSD, OpenBSD, BSDi, you name it. So he has a lot of confidence that the chip will work, and will look just like an x86. Now, whether that particular machine has other issues with OpenBSD, well, I have no data. Please let us know whether it works. I hope it does, because I have a wee bit of money in TMTA and would like to see it worth more. :-) Jill Lundquist jill@chezns.org "The first butcher I saw as a child had a wooden leg, and to this day I have an unreasonable feeling that butchers with two genuine legs are impostors." -Robertson Davies From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 17:12:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6CB14115C7; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C08D2115D2; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:12:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C277115B7 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f48Iepb82555; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:40:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200105081840.f48Iepb82555@harmony.village.org> To: "Jill Lundquist" Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Transmeta? Cc: Jim Rees , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 08 May 2001 12:11:26 MDT." <200105081811.f48IBQs18090@kata.chezns.org> References: <200105081811.f48IBQs18090@kata.chezns.org> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 12:40:51 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk In message <200105081811.f48IBQs18090@kata.chezns.org> "Jill Lundquist" writes: : Now, whether that particular machine has other issues with OpenBSD, : well, I have no data. Please let us know whether it works. The Japanese mobile list for FreeBSD had a number of minor issues with the transmeta laptops that have appeared. All of them are unrelated to the processor, but instead related to the "innovative" way the system components are glued together. OpenBSD should run on them unless there's a silly check for the CPU type that fails to boot for something it doesn't know. The issues were related to interrupt routing and power management if I recall correctly. However, my skills with the Japanese search engines are rather pathetic, so your milage may vary. One thing to watch out for was the clock skew. FreeBSD has a number of different time keeping methods. One of them is very accurate for desktops, but bad for systems that vary the clock speed of the processor. I don't know what OpenBSD does in this area, but it is one thing to check. Warner From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 17:22:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 9835C115C9; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E353B115C8; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from azrael.israfil.net (unknown [24.68.8.153]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1862115B5 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 15:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24660 invoked from network); 8 May 2001 19:02:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wotan) (63.86.194.135) by 24.68.8.153 with SMTP; 8 May 2001 19:02:07 -0000 Message-ID: <00ee01c0d7f2$22cf1cb0$6801c80a@wotan> From: "Christian Edward Gruber" To: "richard airlie" , References: <20010508163143.A30366@darq.net> Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Success on old 486s? Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:07:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I ran 2.6 for about a year on a 486, and rebooted it maybe three times in the whole year. It was my NAT server, and my mail server, web-server, and samba server and took the load with grace and poise. regards, Christian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard airlie" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Success on old 486s? > Hi folks, > Does anyone have any idea as to whether any version of OpenBSD will run well > on old 486 laptops? Specifically I'm looking at Compaq Contura models 410-430. > Important thing would be that it would support 2 pcmcia network cards, as I'd > want to use the box as a gateway. > > Thank you for any info you can provide, > kaneda. > > ps: for the record, i had a page documenting installing openbsd 2.5 on a > HP Omnibook 5000cts. feel free to link to it if you feel someone may find it > useful: http://www.darq.net/~kaneda/omnibook > > From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 17:26:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 19838115D1; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CD647115C8; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from openbsd.agero.se (openbsd.agero.se [195.67.9.30]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6307E115B6 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 15:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ger@localhost) by openbsd.agero.se (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f48JWKt03044; Tue, 8 May 2001 21:32:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: openbsd.agero.se: ger set sender to gustafe@home.se using -f To: mickey@lucifier.net Cc: OpenBSD Mobile List Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: OpenBSD and 3Com AirConnect References: <200105081648.f48GmEx05531@mail.lucifier.net> Reply-To: Gustaf Erikson From: Gustaf Erikson Date: 08 May 2001 21:32:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: Michael Shalayeff's message of "Tue, 8 May 2001 12:48:14 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <87d79jd4cb.fsf@openbsd.agero.se> Lines: 86 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Michael Shalayeff writes: > Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Gustaf Erikson: > > What is the magic required for getting this card to work? [wireless wan woes snipped] > > would you consider supplying info on what version of openbsd (if even) > you are using, dmesg, and US public notary signed proof that you've > done rtfm on www.openbsd.org/report.html ? (; ok... OpenBSD -current, on a Dell Latitude CPi 300. dmesg below I don't consider this a bug per se, more of a FAQ. But I'll consider reporting it if it looks like a bug. > > cu > > -- > paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has remained) > -- Gustaf Erikson -+- +46 70 444 0726 -+- [http://stureby.net/] OpenBSD 2.9-beta (GENERIC) #638: Thu Apr 19 01:00:36 MDT 2001 deraadt@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed cpu0: Intel Pentium (P54C) ("GenuineIntel" 586-class) 166 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8 real mem = 66695168 (65132K) avail mem = 56913920 (55580K) using 839 buffers containing 3436544 bytes (3356K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 04/03/96, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd280 pcibios0 at bios0: rev. 2.1 @ 0xf0000/0x10000 pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 6 Interrupt Routing table entries pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0x8000 0xed000/0x1000 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82437VX" rev 0x01 pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Intel 82371SB PCI-ISA" rev 0x00 pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "Intel 82371SB IDE" rev 0x00: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: wd0: 8-sector PIO, LBA, 1039MB, 2112 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec, 2128896 sectors wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 2014MB, 4092 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec, 4124736 sectors pciide0: channel 0 interrupting at irq 14 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI0 5/cdrom removable pciide0: channel 1 interrupting at irq 15 cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 3 vga1 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 "S3 Trio32/64" rev 0x43 wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) xl0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "3Com 3c905B 100Base-TX" rev 0x64: irq 11 address 00:50:04:eb:1d:1e ukphy0 at xl0 phy 24: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface ukphy0: OUI 0x001018, model 0x0012, rev. 0 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: sysbeep0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec biomask c040 netmask c840 ttymask c8c2 pctr: 586-class performance counters and user-level cycle counter enabled dkcsum: wd0 matched BIOS disk 80 dkcsum: wd1 matched BIOS disk 81 root on wd0a rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302 From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 8 17:29:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id ED976115BA; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1E22D115C9; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moo.cus.org.uk (cus.org.uk [212.1.130.85]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1AB115B7 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 16:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sams@localhost) by moo.cus.org.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA03348; Tue, 8 May 2001 21:10:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:10:26 +0100 (BST) From: Sam Smith X-X-Sender: To: Jim Rees Cc: Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Transmeta? In-Reply-To: <20010508174658.A119A207C1@citi.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 8 May 2001, Jim Rees wrote: > Is there any reason to think OpenBSD might not run on a Transmeta chip? I > am thinking in particular of the Casio Fiva mpc-205: > > http://www.casio.co.jp/mpc/product/ Works fine here. www.cus.org.uk/~sams/vaio for more details of my box. [sams@beep]$dmesg | head OpenBSD 2.9 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Apr 28 23:12:17 BST 2001 root@beep:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Transmeta TMS5600 ("GenuineTMx86" 586-class) 596 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,CMOV,SER,MMX real mem = 116944896 (114204K) avail mem = 103481344 (101056K) 2.8 ran fine processor wise as well. Sam -- Burnout: Attitudes are Contagious, Mine Might Kill You From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 17 01:34:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 9E8A5115F1; Thu, 17 May 2001 01:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 204B8115F0; Thu, 17 May 2001 01:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0BD115A0 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA17029; Mon, 14 May 2001 21:24:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 7335) id 3C2C038699; Mon, 14 May 2001 21:24:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Anyone had experience with a 3Com 3C3FEM556C 10/100 Ethernet+56K Modem card under OpenBSD? To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:24:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: misc@openbsd.org Reply-To: dcarmich@xnet.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010515022411.3C2C038699@typhoon.xnet.com> From: dcarmich@xnet.com (Douglas Carmichael ) Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I'm thinking about using OpenBSD on my NEC Versa LX laptop, and I'm wondering whether anyone has had any experience with a 3Com 3C3FEM556C 10/100 Ethernet+56K modem card. The Ethernet portion is detected as a 3C574 under Linux, and the modem portion is detected as a standard UART under Linux and works with its pppd. Will it work under OpenBSD 2.[8|9]? Here are the messages about the card from NetBSD if that helps at all: pcmcia0: using CIS quirks for 3Com, Megahertz 3C3 pcmcia0: CIS version PCMCIA 2.0 or 2.1 pcmcia0: CIS info: 3Com, Megahertz 3C3FEM556C, A, 001 pcmcia0: Manufacturer code 0x101, product 0x556 pcmcia0: function 0: network adapter, ccr addr 1000 mask 267 pcmcia0: function 0, config table entry 7: I/O card; irq mask ffff; iomask 5, iospace 0-1f; io8 io16 irqlevel pcmcia0: function 1: serial port, ccr addr 1100 mask 277 pcmcia0: function 1, config table entry 39: I/O card; irq mask ffff; iomask 3, iospace 0-7; io8 irqlevel ep0 at pcmcia0 function 0: 3Com/Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI Ethernet/Modem ep0: address 00:01:02:49:e0:8d, 64KB word-wide FIFO, 1:1 Rx:Tx split tqphy0 at ep0 phy 0: 78Q2120 10/100 media interface, rev. 11 tqphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto com3 at pcmcia0 function 1: serial device com3: ns16550a, working fifo Please reply to dcarmich@xnet.com. Thanks for your help. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 17 22:12:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 62AAB115AD; Thu, 17 May 2001 22:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 22B711159F; Thu, 17 May 2001 22:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from openbsd.agero.se (openbsd.agero.se [195.67.9.30]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC9B115F9 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 02:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ger@localhost) by openbsd.agero.se (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f4H6ZHI19339; Thu, 17 May 2001 08:35:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: openbsd.agero.se: ger set sender to gustafe@home.se using -f To: dcarmich@xnet.com Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org, misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Anyone had experience with a 3Com 3C3FEM556C 10/100 Ethernet+56K Modem card under OpenBSD? References: <20010515022411.3C2C038699@typhoon.xnet.com> Reply-To: Gustaf Erikson From: Gustaf Erikson Date: 17 May 2001 08:35:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: dcarmich@xnet.com's message of "Mon, 14 May 2001 21:24:11 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: <87bsospjoa.fsf@openbsd.agero.se> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk dcarmich@xnet.com (Douglas Carmichael ) writes: > I'm thinking about using OpenBSD on my NEC Versa LX laptop, and I'm > wondering whether anyone has had any experience with a 3Com 3C3FEM556C > 10/100 Ethernet+56K modem card. > > The Ethernet portion is detected as a 3C574 under Linux, and the modem > portion is detected as a standard UART under Linux and works with its > pppd. > > Will it work under OpenBSD 2.[8|9]? > FWIW, I'm using a 3C3FEM556B as an Ethernet card under 2.9, and it's detected as ep1. I haven't used the modem, though. /g. -- Gustaf Erikson -+- +46 70 444 0726 -+- [http://stureby.net/] From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Tue May 22 05:24:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id D567911600; Tue, 22 May 2001 05:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 06227115FF; Tue, 22 May 2001 05:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from msi-ny-mail01.epic.sungard.com (xcdfdde1d.ip.ggn.net [205.253.222.29]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E93711594 for ; Tue, 22 May 2001 04:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSI_NY_MAIL01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 22 May 2001 04:33:08 -0400 Message-ID: <4B9494788CADD31181CC00508B63CBB43BAA3B@MSI_NY_MAIL01> From: Sean.McHugh@epic.sungard.com To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: RE: some minor problems with Tosh. Sat PRO 410CDT Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 04:33:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk would've been nice to put in some detail, heh ? Toshiba Satelitte Pro 410CDT Non-interlaced TFT display OBSD 2.8 CT65548 chipset with 1MB Video RAM 40MB RAM -----Original Message----- From: McHugh, Sean Sent: 22 May 2001 09:18 To: 'openbsd-mobile@monkey.org' Subject: some minor problems with Tosh. Sat PRO 410CDT OBSD works great with the Sat PRO 410CDT except for these two minor problems : 1.) Boot never makes it past 'scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets' unless I have the bios set to 'Battery Save mode: Low Power' This setting sets the CPU and harddrive to sleep after 3 minutes of non activity; it also makes the LCD display go dark. Now, this does not seem to be a problem if I have a monitor connected - just press the space bar and I'm back in business. But if I am just using the LCD, it never comes back. So when I lose the screen, I have to power down- on the way back up it hangs at the same line above during boot; so i have to switch from Low Power battery save mode to High power, reboot, fail, power off, switch back to Low Power batt. save mode, reboot. Anyone seen this ? 2.) I got X to start nicely with Dmitri K.'s XF86Config for the Sat Pro 440CDT (changed some params fot the C&T65548 chipset which I am using) but the screen is offset by about 180-200 pixels to the right, leaving a blank space on the left side and a cutoff screen on the right. here is my XF86Config: Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" EndSection Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" XkbRules "xfree86" XkbModel "pc101" XkbLayout "us" EndSection Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/psm0" Resolution 100 Buttons 3 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Primary Monitor" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" HorizSync 25-64 VertRefresh 40-70 Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Primary Card" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Chips & Technologies CT65548" # Device section for C&T cards. Option "suspend_hack" # Option "STN" Option "no_stretch" # Option "no_center" Option "use_modeline" Option "fix_panel_size" # videoram 512 EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "Accel" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" DefaultColorDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "SVGA" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" DefaultColorDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "VGA16" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "VGA2" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "Mono" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection thanks, sean From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Wed May 23 13:51:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5BCCD115E6; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0B8FB115E5; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coltrane.dataconnection.com (smtp.dataconnection.com [192.91.191.4]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963DD115C1 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 09:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by coltrane.datcon.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 23 May 2001 14:51:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: Shriman Gurung To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:50:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Is there any way to get the text mode display on a tecra 8100 to fill up the whole screen, rather than a 6x4" area in the centre of the display? In Linux I could set a vga mode in lilo.conf and it would miraculously use the whole screen. I vaguely recall this was something to do with having built in framebuffer support to the kernel. So that's not an option here, if I understand correctly(??) cheers s From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Wed May 23 15:13:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id A9650115E1; Wed, 23 May 2001 15:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7A42C115E0; Wed, 23 May 2001 15:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1085) id C1C83115E0; Wed, 23 May 2001 14:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCBA5C582; Wed, 23 May 2001 14:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Campbell To: Shriman Gurung Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 23 May 2001, Shriman Gurung wrote: > Is there any way to get the text mode display on a tecra > 8100 to fill up the whole screen, rather than a 6x4" area > in the centre of the display? On many laptops this is a BIOS option. --- Aaron Campbell (aaron@monkey.org || aaron@openbsd.org) http://www.monkey.org/~aaron From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Wed May 23 19:31:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id DFD77115B2; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 11C7C1159B; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emaginet.com (beth.e-centives.com [63.65.80.132]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399AD115DA; Wed, 23 May 2001 15:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from e-centives.com (ghuff@scirocco.bethesda.emaginet.com [172.16.4.89]) by emaginet.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA29491; Wed, 23 May 2001 15:15:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3B0B8903.745E05AF@e-centives.com> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 05:55:15 -0400 From: Gary Huff Organization: e-centives, INC. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Campbell Cc: Shriman Gurung , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot ontecra 8100 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Hold down esc, until it complains that there was a stuck key. After this, F1 into the bios. It should be the same, I did this on the Portege 7220CTE I use at work. These Toshiba's seem strange, as they don't advertise the key used for bios entry. Peace, -Gary Huff Aaron Campbell wrote: > > On Wed, 23 May 2001, Shriman Gurung wrote: > > > Is there any way to get the text mode display on a tecra > > 8100 to fill up the whole screen, rather than a 6x4" area > > in the centre of the display? > > On many laptops this is a BIOS option. > > --- > Aaron Campbell (aaron@monkey.org || aaron@openbsd.org) > http://www.monkey.org/~aaron From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 01:07:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8B9B4115D1; Thu, 24 May 2001 01:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 85343115CF; Thu, 24 May 2001 01:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bobomobo.cwru.edu (ip223.cvd-r1.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.252.223]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613E3115E6; Wed, 23 May 2001 20:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from adam@localhost) by bobomobo.cwru.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA08745; Wed, 23 May 2001 20:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:53:56 -0400 From: adam morley To: Aaron Campbell Cc: Shriman Gurung , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 Message-ID: <20010523205356.B8691@bobomobo.cwru.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from aaron@monkey.org on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:09:41PM -0400 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:09:41PM -0400, Aaron Campbell wrote: > On Wed, 23 May 2001, Shriman Gurung wrote: > > > Is there any way to get the text mode display on a tecra > > 8100 to fill up the whole screen, rather than a 6x4" area > > in the centre of the display? > > On many laptops this is a BIOS option. on my t21, (relatively new) it is a Fn-combo. Fn-F8. undocumented. called something like scaling. > > --- > Aaron Campbell (aaron@monkey.org || aaron@openbsd.org) > http://www.monkey.org/~aaron -- thanks adam any and all ideas herein are the sole property of the author, with no implied warranties or guarantees. unless its somebody else's already. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 05:00:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id C43C7115D5; Thu, 24 May 2001 05:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E7563115D4; Thu, 24 May 2001 05:00:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coltrane.dataconnection.com (smtp.dataconnection.com [192.91.191.4]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6946115D4 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 04:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by coltrane.datcon.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 24 May 2001 09:48:38 +0100 Message-ID: From: Shriman Gurung To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: RE: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED] Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:48:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to all who replied. There is a BIOS option called 'LCD Display Stretch' that blows up the text mode display to fill the whole screen. Power on, hold down [Esc], then press [F1] when prompted. The results aren't to everyone's taste (the font is naturally a bit rough) but it's certainly easier to read. Now I just have to get X working... s From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 05:01:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 84FF0115E2; Thu, 24 May 2001 05:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9164A115D5; Thu, 24 May 2001 05:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from propaganda.spy.net (propaganda.spy.net [204.71.107.20]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4CA115D3 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 02:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beastie.oz.spy.net (beastie.oz.spy.net [203.36.81.227]) by propaganda.spy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F487809 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 01:24:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.oz.spy.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.oz.spy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4O6O8u25410 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 16:24:08 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:24:07 +1000 (EST) From: d neal wise X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 In-Reply-To: <20010523205356.B8691@bobomobo.cwru.edu> Message-ID: X-Organization: SPY internetworking - http://www.spy.net X-SPY: will network for food MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 23 May 2001, adam morley wrote: > > On many laptops this is a BIOS option. > > on my t21, (relatively new) it is a Fn-combo. Fn-F8. undocumented. called something like scaling. on my thinkpad 380ed it was addressed in the XF86Config as something like "option stretch_screen" in the Device section but it was *also* configurable with the windows tp utilities or the command line ps2 program (which I kept around on a PC bootable floppy). Which makes it a BIOS setting but hard to get at. All you get from the BIOS setup is some simple boot options and a little self test. oh and the flying duck pointer (i like the duck) on my compaq armada m700 it was a bios option to stretch the screen in graphics mode which made 640x480, 800x600 fill the 14" screen while 1024x768 was the 'real' resolution. ditto on my gateway 9300ev except they separate text and graphics modes (i hate how bios' dumb down things like that which make it fun to find things like PnP support). I'd bet it's in the bios. This all makes me want to assume that Fn, rather than meaning function, means F'n. Like as in my F'n laptop has F'n hidden configuration that gets F'n old to remember which F'n keys you push to get to the BIOS setup or to change the F'n parameters. regards, F'n neal ___________ d neal wise - nwise@spy.net SPY internetworking - will network for food http://www.spy.net From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 10:41:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 9A4D71160E; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC1101160D; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freek.com (freek.com [206.252.131.6]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EB11160E for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by freek.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id D7E062655; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:39:18 -0400 From: josh To: Shriman Gurung Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED] Message-ID: <20010524103918.A28355@freek.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sg@dataconnection.com on Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:48:36AM +0100 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Shriman Gurung wrote... > Thanks to all who replied. There is a BIOS option called > 'LCD Display Stretch' that blows up the text mode display to > fill the whole screen. Power on, hold down [Esc], then > press [F1] when prompted. Yep....I have a Toshiba Portege 650CT, same deal... > Now I just have to get X working... I have a working XF86Config for XF864.0.3 if you're interested. (Machine is at home right now, and powered off, but I can email it to you tonight) -- josh From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 12:34:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 448FD1160E; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 678C71160B; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miles.dataconnection.com (smtp2.dataconnection.com [192.91.191.8]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0A91160B for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 11:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by miles.datcon.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 24 May 2001 16:16:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: Shriman Gurung To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Cc: 'josh' Subject: X on Tecra 8100 [was: RE: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED]] Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:16:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Thanks, Josh, that's kind of you -- but I don't think that the Porteges have the same graphics chipset. Chips&Tech on the portege versus S3 Savage/MX on the tecra? I can post the messages from 'startx' and my XF86Config if required, but basically when I try to start X I get (**) Mouse0: Protocol: wsmouse (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wsmouse Device busy. (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" X in free(): warning: chunk is already free. (WW) No core pointer registered No core pointer Fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices I have wsmoused_flags="-2" in /etc/rc.conf.local. Should I have something else like "-p /dev/psm0 -2"? I notice that there aren't any /dev/{psm,pms}* devices, fwiw. dmesg reports (amongst other things): pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 Any help gratefully received. shriman From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 12:40:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 9628711610; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B34DA1160E; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freek.com (freek.com [206.252.131.6]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0143A1160C for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by freek.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3F6B32655; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:05:28 -0400 From: josh To: Shriman Gurung Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: X on Tecra 8100 [was: RE: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED]] Message-ID: <20010524120528.B28355@freek.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sg@dataconnection.com on Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:16:34PM +0100 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Shriman Gurung wrote... > Thanks, Josh, that's kind of you -- but I don't think that the > Porteges have the same graphics chipset. Chips&Tech on the portege > versus S3 Savage/MX on the tecra? Right, I have Chips & Tech...sorry... > I can post the messages from 'startx' and my XF86Config if required, > but basically when I try to start X I get > > (**) Mouse0: Protocol: wsmouse > (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wsmouse > Device busy. > (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" > X in free(): warning: chunk is already free. > (WW) No core pointer registered > No core pointer Oh that's an easy fix... You have some program (wsmoused?) that is tying up the mouse device. kill wsmoused, then try starting X again. > I have wsmoused_flags="-2" in /etc/rc.conf.local. Should I have > something else like "-p /dev/psm0 -2"? I notice that there aren't > any /dev/{psm,pms}* devices, fwiw. set it to moused_flags=NO -- josh From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 12:45:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 220D911610; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 21701115D3; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miles.dataconnection.com (smtp2.dataconnection.com [192.91.191.8]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB52D115D3 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by miles.datcon.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 24 May 2001 17:30:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: Shriman Gurung To: 'josh' Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: RE: X on Tecra 8100 [SOLVED] [was: RE: OpenBSD-mobile: display is sues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED]] Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:30:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk aaaargh! It's so easy when you know the answer ;) I had assumed that using the wsmouse protocol in X implied you needed wsmoused running. Thanks. Now everything I want to work, works. shriman -----Original Message----- From: josh [mailto:dorqus@freek.com] Sent: 24 May 2001 17:05 To: Shriman Gurung Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: X on Tecra 8100 [was: RE: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED]] [snip] Oh that's an easy fix... You have some program (wsmoused?) that is tying up the mouse device. kill wsmoused, then try starting X again. [snip] From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 12:52:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 1739E11612; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3C9A111610; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emaginet.com (beth.e-centives.com [63.65.80.132]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F82115D3 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from e-centives.com (ghuff@scirocco.bethesda.emaginet.com [172.16.4.89]) by emaginet.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA17086; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:34:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3B0CB48F.27D0F47B@e-centives.com> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 03:13:19 -0400 From: Gary Huff Organization: e-centives, INC. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: josh Cc: Shriman Gurung , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: X on Tecra 8100 [was: RE: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED]] References: <20010524120528.B28355@freek.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Just for the record, my Portege has the Savage MX. There's XFree drivers for both 3.3.6 and 4.0.x 4.0.3, you will need to get the source and patch the XFree source tree. BTDT, was fairly easy. If anyone wants my XF86Config, ask and you shall recieve. It's for 4.0.3 using ws*. Peace, -Gary Huff josh wrote: > > Shriman Gurung wrote... > > Thanks, Josh, that's kind of you -- but I don't think that the > > Porteges have the same graphics chipset. Chips&Tech on the portege > > versus S3 Savage/MX on the tecra? > > Right, I have Chips & Tech...sorry... > > > I can post the messages from 'startx' and my XF86Config if required, > > but basically when I try to start X I get > > > > (**) Mouse0: Protocol: wsmouse > > (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer > > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wsmouse > > Device busy. > > (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device > > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" > > X in free(): warning: chunk is already free. > > (WW) No core pointer registered > > No core pointer > > Oh that's an easy fix... You have some program (wsmoused?) that > is tying up the mouse device. > kill wsmoused, then try starting X again. > > > I have wsmoused_flags="-2" in /etc/rc.conf.local. Should I have > > something else like "-p /dev/psm0 -2"? I notice that there aren't > > any /dev/{psm,pms}* devices, fwiw. > > set it to moused_flags=NO > > -- > josh From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 18:39:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id AFBBA115D1; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:39:33 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 69F0F115CC; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dumbcat.snafu.org (dumbcat.snafu.org [64.174.80.155]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6418B115CC for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 15:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hana.snafu.org (root@hana.snafu.org [64.174.80.154]) by dumbcat.snafu.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4OJTJd30346; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hana.snafu.org (marc@localhost.snafu.org [127.0.0.1]) by hana.snafu.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4OJTIH17687; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:29:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Marco S Hyman To: Gary Huff Cc: josh , Shriman Gurung , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: X on Tecra 8100 [was: RE: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED]] In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 24 May 2001 03:13:19 EDT." <3B0CB48F.27D0F47B@e-centives.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:29:18 -0700 Message-ID: <14488.990732558@hana.snafu.org> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Gary Huff writes: > Just for the record, my Portege has the Savage MX. There's XFree drivers > for both 3.3.6 and 4.0.x 4.0.3, you will need to get the source and > patch the XFree source tree. BTDT, was fairly easy. If anyone wants my > XF86Config, ask and you shall recieve. It's for 4.0.3 using ws*. Peace, Uhh, Savage support is in both 3.x and the 4.x versions of X for OpenBSD. It's been in the 3.x branch since before 2.8. The OpenBSD XF4 source repository contains both. // marc From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 18:41:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id A429411603; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 28989115D1; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emaginet.com (beth.e-centives.com [63.65.80.132]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4CB115CC for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 15:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from e-centives.com (ghuff@scirocco.bethesda.emaginet.com [172.16.4.89]) by emaginet.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA21274; Thu, 24 May 2001 15:31:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3B0CDE19.AA0364DB@e-centives.com> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 06:10:33 -0400 From: Gary Huff Organization: e-centives, INC. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco S Hyman Cc: josh , Shriman Gurung , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: X on Tecra 8100 [was: RE: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED]] References: <14488.990732558@hana.snafu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk That's nice, try using the provided drivers with 3.x It seems not to work..... hrmmm..... Although the XFree86 web page implies that the Savage/MX and Savage/IX chips are supported in XFree86 3.3.6, that is not, in fact, true. The XF86_SVGA server includes code for detecting the /MX and /IX, but no code for drawing to them. I now have a patched version of the server which includes this support. Interesting............ http://www.probo.com/timr/savagemx.html Even more interesting.......... where this excerpt is from. I'll let you all decide the dilly. Peace, -Gary Huff Marco S Hyman wrote: > > Gary Huff writes: > > Just for the record, my Portege has the Savage MX. There's XFree drivers > > for both 3.3.6 and 4.0.x 4.0.3, you will need to get the source and > > patch the XFree source tree. BTDT, was fairly easy. If anyone wants my > > XF86Config, ask and you shall recieve. It's for 4.0.3 using ws*. Peace, > > Uhh, Savage support is in both 3.x and the 4.x versions of X for > OpenBSD. It's been in the 3.x branch since before 2.8. The OpenBSD > XF4 source repository contains both. > > // marc From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Thu May 24 18:46:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 634E11160C; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7B5A011603; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dumbcat.snafu.org (dumbcat.snafu.org [64.174.80.155]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE49E11612 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 16:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hana.snafu.org (root@hana.snafu.org [64.174.80.154]) by dumbcat.snafu.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4OKuZd17812; Thu, 24 May 2001 13:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hana.snafu.org (marc@localhost.snafu.org [127.0.0.1]) by hana.snafu.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4OKuYH27527; Thu, 24 May 2001 13:56:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Marco S Hyman To: Gary Huff Cc: josh , Shriman Gurung , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: X on Tecra 8100 [was: RE: OpenBSD-mobile: display issues with may 15th 2.9 snapshot on tecra 8100 [SOLVED]] In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 24 May 2001 06:10:33 EDT." <3B0CDE19.AA0364DB@e-centives.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:56:34 -0700 Message-ID: <31385.990737794@hana.snafu.org> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Gary Huff writes: > That's nice, try using the provided drivers with 3.x It seems not to > work..... hrmmm..... > > Although the XFree86 web page implies that the Savage/MX and Savage/IX > chips are supported in XFree86 3.3.6, that is not, in fact, true. The > XF86_SVGA I did not say XFree 3.x I said the OpenBSD version of XFree 3.x. Oh, you didn't realize that OpenBSD has added things to X? Yep. That's why there is an X11 repository (now replaced with an XF4 repository) of the OpenBSD version of X. Note: the XF4 repository includes the 3.x servers. I know the Savage code is supported under OpenBSD X because I'm the one who imported the changes into both 3.x and the 3.x portion of the XF4 source repository. The code came from http://www.probo.com/timr/savagemx.html // marc From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Fri May 25 15:55:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 1DE11115F0; Fri, 25 May 2001 15:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1315C115B2; Fri, 25 May 2001 15:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fax.tgivan.com (unknown [202.144.239.157]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162EE11621 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 13:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aukland.yp.tgx ([192.9.200.62] helo=aukland.tgivan.com) by fax.tgivan.com with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 153Lfa-00042P-00; Fri, 25 May 2001 10:46:38 -0700 Received: from tokyo by aukland.tgivan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA05607; Fri, 25 May 2001 10:46:36 -0700 Received: from [192.9.200.12] (helo=tgivan.com) by tokyo with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #3 (SunOS 5.7)) id 153Lf9-0001RK-00; Fri, 25 May 2001 10:46:11 -0700 Message-ID: <3B0E9D6C.1BFE1F83@tgivan.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:59:08 -0700 From: Kevin Sindhu Reply-To: kevin@tgivan.com Organization: TGI Technologies Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en, it, ru, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OpenBSD Misc , openbsd-mobile Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Wscons and mice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Talking about cats and mice, I have a question. I have a Ps/2 internal mouse on my laptop, and recently just bought a Microsoft USB intellimouse. How do I go about using both at the same time? Can I just plug the USB mouse out and plug it back in(while in X)? Or do I need to set something up in wscons? Thanks -Kevin From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Fri May 25 16:04:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 425DA115D9; Fri, 25 May 2001 16:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 321B7115C1; Fri, 25 May 2001 16:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1085) id 19B53115B2; Fri, 25 May 2001 15:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092335C582; Fri, 25 May 2001 15:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 15:32:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Campbell To: Kevin Sindhu Cc: OpenBSD Misc , openbsd-mobile Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Re: Wscons and mice In-Reply-To: <3B0E9D6C.1BFE1F83@tgivan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kevin Sindhu wrote: > I have a Ps/2 internal mouse on my laptop, and recently just bought a > Microsoft USB intellimouse. How do I go about using both at the same > time? Can I just plug the USB mouse out and plug it back in(while in > X)? Or do I need to set something up in wscons? Make sure your X config has "/dev/wsmouse" as your mouse device (i.e., not one of the "/dev/wsmouse[0-9]" devices. This will automagically make X accepts events from any connected PS/2 or USB mice. --- Aaron Campbell (aaron@monkey.org || aaron@openbsd.org) http://www.monkey.org/~aaron From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Mon May 28 15:29:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 716CE115DB; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6FB70115C9; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c000.snv.cp.net (c000-h001.c000.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.65]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A4F1115DB for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 21692 invoked from network); 28 May 2001 12:08:58 -0700 Received: from dsl081-165-216.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO phoenix01) (64.81.165.216) by smtp.scott.org (209.228.32.65) with SMTP; 28 May 2001 12:08:58 -0700 X-Sent: 28 May 2001 19:08:58 GMT From: "Casey Paul Scott" To: Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: 2.9 on Toshiba Tecra 8100 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:02:42 -0700 Message-ID: <000401c0e7a8$c63d9320$11242a0a@gudbier.org> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I recently removed Debian from my Tecra 8100, and installed 2.8 from CD. Worked great, including the CVS update to 2.9, (although the yds* audio driver and pmsi* wsmouse drivers in the Generic kernel caused problems briefly). The Tecra is one of those laptops that runs its display only in 1024x768 and when it starts to console, it only uses the center portion of the screen, leaving half of the real estate blank. XWindows does work at the higher resolution, using the whole screen, but I'd like to run my console display at 1024x768 as well. I tried futzing with using wsconsctl to add and remove consoles, but that didn't seem to change the fact that the console was still in 640x480, just the number of lines that were visible in 640x480. What am I missing about wsdisplay to start the console at a higher resolution at boot time? From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Mon May 28 15:53:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id B2022115E0; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D6811115DB; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1085) id CCB02115DB; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33245C582; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:50:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Campbell To: Casey Paul Scott Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: 2.9 on Toshiba Tecra 8100 In-Reply-To: <000401c0e7a8$c63d9320$11242a0a@gudbier.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 28 May 2001, Casey Paul Scott wrote: > What am I missing about wsdisplay to start the console at a higher > resolution at boot time? It was a BIOS option on my old Toshiba Tecra laptop. --- Aaron Campbell (aaron@monkey.org || aaron@openbsd.org) http://www.monkey.org/~aaron From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Mon May 28 16:15:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@naughty.monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6F1C311594; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 93F59115E0; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by naughty.monkey.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E1F115E0 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from horseplay.demonadsltrial.co.uk ([193.195.64.157] helo=DAZ_DESKTOP.horseplay.demon.co.uk) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 154THj-000N75-0W for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:06:39 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.1.20010528210845.02bfc318@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Sender: horseplay@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:09:42 +0100 To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org From: Darren Evans Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Dell Insp 8000 Nvidia GeForce2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk XFree86 4.0.3 The -configure option unfortunately says data not added to xf86PciInfo.h Has someone sat down and configured this card, a quick search has yielded nothing and i recall someone on here had one. Can provide more info if needed. thanks Darren