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Re: apm: connect error on IBM R50e
- To: misc_(_at_)_openbsd_(_dot_)_org
- Subject: Re: apm: connect error on IBM R50e
- From: "STeve Andre'" <andres_(_at_)_msu_(_dot_)_edu>
- Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:36:09 -0400
On Monday 17 October 2005 16:03, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 03:27:12PM +0200, PrzemysE?aw Nowaczyk wrote:
> > > Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > > >i don't know much about the issues involved (i don't know anything
> > > > about them actually) but basically apm is not supported on this
> > > > machine.
> > > >
> > > >i have an r40e with the same issue, and it is a royal pain for a
> > > > laptop ;(
> > >
> > > so what you want to tell is that it won't change..? that's a sad news..
> > > actually I bought this machine to be "on the road" with OpenBSD.. and
> > > to be honest I thought that since other ThinkPads work great this won't
> > > have any issues either.. and now I begin to regret my choice.. Really
> > > nothing can bo done?
> > i can't say that, since i don't know. maybe mickey or theo can tell us
> > the specific issue, but it's something to do with intel's choice of
> > hardware i think...
> It saddens me; appears that at least some newer IBM laptops have removed
> the legacy APM support.
> Over the last few years IBM has been doing the best job of all laptop
> vendors. Instead of having an increasingly crummy APM implimentation as
> other vendors have had, they instead had a proper and good shim doing
> APM on top of the internal ACPI codebase, hence APM worked just fine.
> If they have finally decided to stop shipping with a working APM, IBM
> laptops are now off my list. They are now no better than anything
> But this is typical; companies always shoot themselves in the foot.
> There is such a great disconnect with minor (but very dedicated)
> groups in their user base. How modern of them..
The R series of ThinkPads are a little weird in some respects, and
I don't think were designed by IBM themselves, but possibly Acer or
another company. This is like the "i" series ThinkPads, which were
not as good as the other more expensive units of the day.
The flagship series "T" units should do apm just fine. I briefly
tried a T41p and all seemed well, and the i386-laptop page seems
to confirm this with other T's. The X series are good too according
to the ThinkPad snobs I know.
But nothing beats my A31p, which they aren't making any more...
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