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Re: Lotus Domino 6.0 and Above
- To: misc_(_at_)_openbsd_(_dot_)_org
- Subject: Re: Lotus Domino 6.0 and Above
- From: Chuck Yerkes <chuck+obsd_(_at_)_2004_(_dot_)_snew_(_dot_)_com>
- Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:52:22 -0400
(i'm on the list, no need to send me mail directly).
Quoting Mart?n Marconcini (martin_(_dot_)_marconcini_(_at_)_jaskus_(_dot_)_net):
> But I feel tempted to remind "you" that Lotus Domino is NOT an email
> server. It's much more than that, thus saying: "I've also replaced it.
> Killed 15 Notes machines and put 40,000 students onto 1 IMAP server. That
> was good."
And yet minor groups, unrespected by businesses, find that at a
majority of sites, MOST if not all of the use gropeware is email.
Calendar use infringed on that. There are alternatives.
> May sound nice, yet i've done the same, replaced several Imap/Pop users
> with Domino Server and I felt better. Instead of Just an IMAP account, the
> users now have the power of Domino and the whole infrastructure.
And the cost. $25/user/month according to several studies
from places companies pay attention to. Plus that joy of having
all their data "locked in" to a proprietary vendor.
Notes offers "IMAP Access". 12 at a time, in my experience.
I find people who are relieved to have escape notes,
who wish they COULD escape notes,
or who haven't used notes and think it will be good
> If you compare an "imap" server with Domino, either you're trolling or
> you've never used Notes/Domino before.
Or we have dealt with it extensively.
Or we see how people use Notes 99% of the time.
I've been around Notes for 10 years. I was 'mandated' to use it
for mail. It crashed my Sun a lot. Support said: "Oh. Yeah, that
I dumped a copy of all my mail into it. ~1700 messages a day (postmaster
at a Fortune 100 before spam). With no filtering available. (I really
read it after procmail on a local machine).
The mail server died. I was told to read/delete mail. We did a test.
I would spend 80% of my time JUST doing the "Open+Delete" that was
What's an alternative?
Well, document publishing on Open Web Systems. They scale better,
you're not locked into a vendor's whims.
And you ARE locked in. No, it won't run under BSD. It will run
under Windows. And AIX. And it's starting to be supported on
Linux. I say "started" because when you call for support they
no longer DENY that it runs on Linux.
> So, now that we all know that *BSD in general has no Domino support, i'll
> have to use an alternative OS (Linux comes into my mind)
Yes it does.
And as I mentioned, it wants a lot of horsepower. That 4 or 8 way
Intel/AMD box is the way to go.
> pst: i'm not a domino-zealot,
> ...the server's excellent. (even under windows!).
> ...for big and not so big enterprises, i am with domino
> pst: i'm not a domino-zealot, ...
Or perhaps you're not experienced in how things SHOULD and COULD
be, outside the vendor cages.
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