Re: Telnet / User access priviliges

[Manuel Puehl <manuel_(_at_)_hohx_(_dot_)_org>]

a good ssh client for windows, it´s the same thing
when you by an Ferrari and build in a motor from a
tractor ;-)

TeraTerm or SecureCRT

Lawrence Johnson wrote:

> Thanks again Chuck,
>
> Okay, I'm an idiot on the access rights things.  I didnt realize that it was
> the same as file permissions.  Whats a good (easy to implement) ssh client
> for win98?
>
> Thanks for your continued support
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Yerkes" <chuck_(_at_)_snew_(_dot_)_com>
> To: "Lawrence Johnson" <admin_(_dot_)_desertstars_(_at_)_verizon_(_dot_)_net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Telnet / User access priviliges
>
>
>
> > > when i adduser, and use that user to log in on telnet, his access rights
> are
>
> > > pretty much none.  I don't know what group to add him to to give him
> access,
>
> > > I tried wheel but that doesn't work.
> > I'm trying to understand what specific problem you are having.
> >
> > > "His access rights are pretty much none"
> > What fails?
> >
> >
> > I'd suggest some Unix reading for you.  Specifically the outstanding
> > book by Evi Nemeth (prof at U Colo) and friends:
> > "System Administration Handbook".
> >
> >
> >
> > RE: SSH
> > Perhaps play with telnet, but there are a bunch of ssh clients
> > out there for Mac Classic and Windows (unix just uses ssh).
> > MacSSH (macssh.org?) and teratermssh (google for ttssh) are free.
> >
> > sshd (the daemon runs by default on OpenBSD boxes).
> >
> > Quoting Lawrence Johnson (admin_(_dot_)_desertstars_(_at_)_verizon_(_dot_)_net):
> >
> > > Chuck,
> > > Thanks for your concern, but I am the ONLY operator on my LAN.  Somebody
> > > would have to break into my home in order to f* up my servers.  Yes, the
> > > telnet is internal and it is secure.  I dont know the FIRST thing about
> rsh
>
> > > or ssh, or even rlogin, except for what it does.  I tried researching
> it,
>
> > > but it seemed like it was more complicated than it would be valuable to
> me
>
> > > at this point.  I will learn ssh, but for now, I need telnet to work for
> me.
>
> > > : )
> > >
> > > when i adduser, and use that user to log in on telnet, his access rights
> are
>
> > > pretty much none.  I don't know what group to add him to to give him
> access,
>
> > > I tried wheel but that doesn't work.
> > >
> > > And one more question, I could probably figure out how to work an ssh
> > > client, but how do I run an ssh server?
> > >
> > > Thanks Chuck
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chuck Yerkes" <chuck_(_at_)_snew_(_dot_)_com>
> > > To: "Lawrence Johnson" <admin_(_dot_)_desertstars_(_at_)_verizon_(_dot_)_net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:58 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Telnet / User access priviliges
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Quoting Lawrence Johnson (admin_(_dot_)_desertstars_(_at_)_verizon_(_dot_)_net):
> > > >
> > > > > Chuck,
> > > > >
> > > > > yes i know telnet is bad, but I dont understand ssh.
> > > > Then learn it.  To the user, it's the same as telnet/rsh.
> > > > To the admin, the stuff is secure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Plus, this is for
> > > > > internal network use only, so no unencrypted information will be
> going
>
> > > > > across the 'net.
> > > > Your LAN is secure.  Or is it?  The nightmare is that someone gets
> > > > access, or 0wns a machine and sniffs and gets all your passwords.
> > > > Since the cost of using ssh is nil (free ssh clients abound), then
> > > > make it secure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > So, by definition I guess I want to allow a user, (that
> > > > > was added through adduser) to have the rights to modify files like,
> html
>
> > > > > documents, or to create files, etc.
> > > > Adduser creates a unix user (/etc/passwd, usually).  That
> > > > user and his group memberships will guide this.  Pick up
> > > > a basic Unix book for lots of info.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Chuck Yerkes" <chuck_(_at_)_snew_(_dot_)_com>
> > > > > To: "Lawrence Johnson" <admin_(_dot_)_desertstars_(_at_)_verizon_(_dot_)_net>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:15 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Telnet / User access priviliges
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > define (for the list) your term "user access rights"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, and no telnet.  It's wrong, it's bad, it should go away.
> > > > > > Robert Morris delivered a paper on how bad it was in 1986.
> > > > > > Moreso now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quoting Lawrence Johnson (admin_(_dot_)_desertstars_(_at_)_verizon_(_dot_)_net):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do I edit user access rights?  Especially for telnet
> accounts.
>
> > > > > > > Thanks