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Re: openbsd awareness group
- To: misc_(_at_)_openbsd_(_dot_)_org
- Subject: Re: openbsd awareness group
- From: "G. E. Pedowitz" <gep_(_at_)_arch_(_dot_)_sel_(_dot_)_sony_(_dot_)_com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:55:22 -0700
- Delivery-date: Tue Jul 21 12:57:19 1998
- Organization: Sony US Research Labs
We've been trying to pull together an OpenBSD users group
for the South Bay. We've even stuck little "0BUG: OpenBSD
Users of Silicon Valley" stickers on all the CDs we sell
here. I don't recall whether this was formally posted to
the list, but... well, it is now. Send mail to myself or
jkatz_(_at_)_cpio_(_dot_)_net if you're interested.
One of the nice things about users group meetings is that
they afford you the chance to brainstorm about these things
in person. It's sometimes far more effective to meet, think,
have pizza for dinner, think great thoughts, and run to the
printer's in a carbohydrate-induced frenzy than to speak
about it on a list. There's often an uncomfortable amount
of lag time between good ideas on a list and the execution
of same in the real world. :-)
As for design, just added another graphic to
http://www.cpio.org/openbsd/ . It's the smaller one...
Bumper stickers are quite effective in areas where there are
large concentrations of technical people. I may be able to have
generic stickers printed before Defcon. Does anyone have any ideas
with regard to design?
happy emory wrote:
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> On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Louis Bertrand wrote:
> > > if there is some sort of "oepnbsd awareness" group or something or people
> > > that would like to be doing this, please let me know.
> I'm not talking about marketing per se. I'm talking about raising
> awareness. I see all kinds of Linux bumper stickers out here, I wouldn't
> mind having some OpenBSD ones available.
> > Not a flame, Emory, but bumper stickers are only effective where a lot
> > of potential users will see it, like a university campus.
> Or near the Pentagon, the White House, University of Maryland, George
> Washington University, Georgetown, American University, Langley, the
> *slew* of Research Labs and computational facilities here, the countless
> number of ISP's and their staff, (AOL is about a 10 minute cruise from my
> office, i'm 200 yards from mae-east, and uunet and cable and wireless have
> their offices on my block too so to speak.)
> In my area, there are PLENTY of people to see an OpenBSD bumper sticker
> and know what the hell it is. I get thumbs up about my *license plates*
> for crissakes.
> Bumper stickers don't have to be on a car. They can be in a neat little
> stack in a computer store. In a library, a bookstore, etc. I think that
> bumper stickers with a good message about OpenBSD on them would be a good
> thing and I think a lot of people would like to have one (or five!)
> My desire to have them done by defcon isn't going to happen, and I'm sorry
> but I've got a million things going on in my personal life and at work
> that take the majority of my time and attention right now. I think that
> before summers end I could have a couple batches run though with some
> designs if some designs could get done and catchy slogans forwarded to me
> > A better way of getting public attention is to use leverage: you and
> > I can talk to dozens of people and get their attention. A magazine
> > can reach thousands of subscribers. It works for other OS's -- look
> > at all the good press (and printed flame wars) Linux is getting, or
> > Macintosh for that matter.
> I've been wanting to go to the D.C. Area Linux Users Group meetings for
> that reason. Its really good to meet people with the same concerns I had
> about that OS and explain what I did to fix those concerns.
> > The idea of a awareness group is great (and, judging from some web
> > pages, greatly overdue!). We could use the awareness group to
> > collect positive spin on OpenBSD, trade press contacts and re-print
> > articles. Maybe a mailing list would help (openbsd-advocacy?).
> Yes, yes yes. I would really like to see an effort in this direction.
> After the blurb in Wired, I think the viability and visibility of OpenBSD
> has risen significantly. Its time to start making some Public Relations
> (as it were) feasible.
> So how about an advocacy group? What else could be done to further the OS
> outside of sheer technological superiority?
> > This is where less technically adept users like me could help out.
> > (That's a hint to all you back seat drivers out there!)
> Why do you think I'm so gung ho about this? I can't code my way out a
> paper bag on a good day ;)
> > I don't have a lot of experience writing for magazines, but I'm
> > willing to give it a try -- let's say I start with a local
> There is a technology section on one of the websites I host here, its
> going to start getting a biweekly dose of openbsd things once the site is
> underway. The pthreads issue has been really hanging us up though, I'm
> about *this* close to putting up a FreeBSD machine to just serve the
> database. Lovely solution, eh?
> > We could also set up public demos (ask local friendly computer shops
> > to set up a demo machine with a small display of CD-ROMs).
> > Follow-up with a dangerous idea: a hack-this-system challenge!
> > Pardon this overlong essay on media relations, but it bothers me
> > that good work is being ignored (or even peed on) because everyone
> > is too busy putting the system together.
> so louis. lets do something about it, eh?
> [getittogethergetittogetherget] s u b l i m i n a l
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G. E. Pedowitz - Software Engineer - gep_(_at_)_arch_(_dot_)_sel_(_dot_)_sony_(_dot_)_com
Distributed Systems Lab, Sony US Research Labs
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