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Re: bsd license question

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, eric wrote:

Doesn't this stuff belong on openbsd-advocacy@

Eric has a point -- I'm already posting this mail to advocacy_(_at_)__(_dot_)_ |f people agree that we should relocate there, I'd be happy to go along.

On 1 Mar 2005, at 09:45, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:

curl -O http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
vi LICENSE-2.0.txt

Which is taken as a serious and contructive proposal. As this is a worry
which is widely shared.

3 Grant of Patent License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this
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import, and otherwise transfer the Work, where such license applies only
to those patent claims licensable by such Contributor that are necessarily
infringed by their Contribution(s) alone or by combination of their
Contribution(s) with the Work to which such Contribution(s) was submitted.

If You institute patent litigation against any entity (including a
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under this License for that Work shall terminate as of the date such
litigation is filed.

But is it just the last paragraphwhich is the issue - or the whole of
clause 3 as a whole ? Because with just the first paragraph the submarine
issue is addressed to some extend.

I think we're looking at different versions.
In http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt, the above are ONE paragraph.

Yes, admittedly, with just the second bit removed, it does look a lot better to me -- but that's at first sight. I probably would _prefer_ for the entire paragraph to go, but I don't currently see any mayor issues with leaving in the first part of said paragraph. I guess "the jury's still out on that one"; what do others think?

Thanks and regards,
Jens Ropers

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