rip-offs ... Las Vegas ... OpenBSD

[Austin Hook <austin_(_at_)_canuck_(_dot_)_com>]

Here at the Computer Shop in Calgary we process the orders submitted to
the OpenBSD web pages.   We seem to get more and more persistent attempts
to rip off the CD's and T-shirts using stolen credit card numbers, even as
we tighten our filters against such things.

Actually, most of the problems are from overseas, and from countries in
Eastern Europe, and some Far Eastern spots like Indonesia.  In fact, for
these relatively small items, countries that don't suffer from really
broken standards of law and order, seem not to generate enough fraud to
matter, and if some trickster does happen to rip off a copy or two of
OpenBSD, well I guess we can take it as a compliment, a measure of the
interest out there, at any risk!

Actually, we have more of a problem with the mail system failing to
deliver.  That costs us more than the deliberate rip offs, and bothers me
more because then we look bad.

However, on the rip off front, there is one chap that seems to regularly
order from us, using bad credit cards, and last year we did get one
reversal from a credit card owner in a different state, when we failed to
spot the rip off.

So my question to the group, and various defenders of the OpenBSD
faith, what action do you recommend we take when someone blithely keeps
submitting orders with bad cards.  Anything beyond filtering for his
address?

Here are copies of the three orders from last year.   We
note: (1) different credit card number every time (not shown) (2) Same
address every time (3) different phone number every time -- and person who
answers claims nothing to do with the person who ordered  (4) Different
connection source every time.

Anyone on Las Vegas brave enough to drop in on 1216 East Owens?   Should
we file a complaint with the police?  Or should we just send him a free
copy of each new release, considering how important it seems to be to
him, and how poorly he seems to be able to afford it?  What do you think?

Austin


mail/BSD7done-Order number 2000/9/9-2:43:41-24483: 
mail/BSD7done-
mail/BSD7done--> 1 OpenBSD 2.7 CD @ USD $30.00
mail/BSD7done--> Total: USD $30 + Shipping.
mail/BSD7done-
mail/BSD7done-
mail/BSD7done-Ship To:
mail/BSD7done-Name: Kallador
mail/BSD7done-Company: 
mail/BSD7done:Address: 1216 east owens
mail/BSD7done-Address: 
mail/BSD7done-Address: 
mail/BSD7done-City: las vegas
mail/BSD7done-Prov/State: nv
mail/BSD7done-Postal/Zip Code: 89030
mail/BSD7done-Country: USA
mail/BSD7done-Phone: 702 6292189
mail/BSD7done-Fax: 
mail/BSD7done-Email: shadowripp666_(_at_)_hotmail_(_dot_)_com
mail/BSD7done-
mail/BSD7done-Payment Info: 
mail/BSD7done-Credit Card: Visa
mail/BSD7done-Card Number: (Secret)
mail/BSD7done-Card Expiry: (Secret)
mail/BSD7done-Card Validated As: VISA
mail/BSD7done-
mail/BSD7done-Comments: 
mail/BSD7done-
mail/BSD7done-Connection Source:  210.84.128.13 Port: 6312
mail/BSD7done-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
mail/BSD7done-SSLv3, Cipher: RC4-MD5, Key Size: 128 bits
mail/BSD7done-Order Submitted to:  https.openbsd.org Port:443

mail/BSDcancel-Order number 2000/6/3-4:36:55-350: 
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel--> 1 OpenBSD 2.7 CD @ USD $30.00
mail/BSDcancel-NOTE: OpenBSD 2.7 will release and ship on June 15 2000. Shipping of this entire order will wait for that date.
mail/BSDcancel--> 1 OpenBSD 2.5 Cop Shirt (L) @ USD $16.00
mail/BSDcancel--> Total: USD $46 + Shipping.
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-Ship To:
mail/BSDcancel-Name: kallador
mail/BSDcancel-Company: 
mail/BSDcancel:Address: 1216 east owens
mail/BSDcancel-Address: 
mail/BSDcancel-Address: 
mail/BSDcancel-City: las vegas
mail/BSDcancel-Prov/State: nv
mail/BSDcancel-Postal/Zip Code: 89030
mail/BSDcancel-Country: USA
mail/BSDcancel-Phone: 7024595632
mail/BSDcancel-Fax: 
mail/BSDcancel-Email: kallador_(_at_)_hotmail_(_dot_)_com
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-Payment Info: 
mail/BSDcancel-Credit Card: Mastercard
mail/BSDcancel-Card Number: (Secret)
mail/BSDcancel-Card Expiry: (Secret)
mail/BSDcancel-Card Validated As: MAST
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-Comments: 
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-Connection Source:  216.113.49.194 Port: 3491
mail/BSDcancel-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
mail/BSDcancel-SSLv3, Cipher: RC4-MD5, Key Size: 128 bits
mail/BSDcancel-Order Submitted to:  https.openbsd.org Port:443

mail/BSDcancel-Order number 2000/11/28-2:49:58-17887: 
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel--> 1 OpenBSD 2.8 CD @ USD $30.00
mail/BSDcancel-NOTE: Orders containing 2.8 CD's will not ship before Dec 1, 2000
mail/BSDcancel--> 1 OpenBSD 2.5 Cop Shirt (XL) @ USD $16.00
mail/BSDcancel--> Total: USD $46 + Shipping.
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-Ship To:
mail/BSDcancel-Name: kallador Smith
mail/BSDcancel-Company: 
mail/BSDcancel:Address: 1216 east owens
mail/BSDcancel-Address: 
mail/BSDcancel-Address: 
mail/BSDcancel-City: las vegas
mail/BSDcancel-Prov/State: nv
mail/BSDcancel-Postal/Zip Code: 89030
mail/BSDcancel-Country: USA
mail/BSDcancel-Phone: 7024562314
mail/BSDcancel-Fax: 
mail/BSDcancel-Email: shadowrip666_(_at_)_hotmail_(_dot_)_com
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-Payment Info: 
mail/BSDcancel-Credit Card: Mastercard
mail/BSDcancel-Card Number: (Secret)
mail/BSDcancel-Card Expiry: (Secret)
mail/BSDcancel-Card Validated As: MAST
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-Comments: 
mail/BSDcancel-
mail/BSDcancel-Connection Source:  165.117.55.216 Port: 58010
mail/BSDcancel-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
mail/BSDcancel-SSLv3, Cipher: RC4-MD5, Key Size: 128 bits
mail/BSDcancel-Order Submitted to:  https.openbsd.org Port:443