Does anyone have any links to implementations of the above functions, that work on OpenBSD? Not trying to be too lazy, but I figured that I better ask before I ripped them from glibc, or wherever linux gets those wonderful toys. (playing around with pam, for the morbidly curious) jeff -- Jeff Bachtel (root@ISC,TAMU) http://www.cepheid.org/~jeff [finger jeff@cepheid.org for PGP key]