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Re: jive - what is the message being sent here



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At 16:39 -0700 on 12/14/99, Nicholas Merrill wrote:
> Does anyone else find this line of reasoning to be a bit of a stretch?


Yes, but your response was a stretch as well, trying to read more into the
matter than was warranted.


> > If someone finds it offensive, he can opt not to install it.  It's not
> > like it's installed by default.
>
> True someone can choose not to install it.
>
> Conversely, if it was not in the ports tree, someone could choose
> to download it and install it.  I'm not suggesting that we install some
> kernel mod that recognizes jive and won't let it compile.
>
> The main difference is the endorsement of the OpenBSD project.


Having something in the ports tree doesn't imply "endorsement."  It merely
implies that the port runs on OpenBSD.  Your original worry actually comes
from false premises.


Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the swedish chef, redneck (chickenboner),
jar jar binks, and other text translators available as well.  All those are
racist and insulting to one group or another (even giant bug-eyed amphibians
- -- I don't buy the jar jar ebonics 'racist under every character' bit).  But
they're _highly_ useful for parodying spammer web pages and the like.

So rather than wave the racism flag to no good purpose, why not just "port"
the rest of the filters?

Heck, the 'jive' port could even be cleaned up to remove the stupid man page
addition.  Anyone have a source for the original jive (damn, I knew I'd want
the files off my old HPUX machine someday...)?


Richard

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