Re: jive - what is the message being sent here

[Rick Pettit <rpettit@speedqueen.core.com>]

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Dug Song wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Nicholas Merrill wrote:
> 
> > Unlike jive, those program have real purposes.  Jive has no purpose
> > other than to promote racist humor...  The main difference is the
> > endorsement of the OpenBSD project.
> 
> much agreed.
> 
> it's not a matter of censorship - it's a matter of censureship, and taste.
> 
> no one needs this program, it's an ugly thing for us to have, and have to
> support, and have to justify in our ports collection.
> 
> if no one objects, i'd like to delete it.

	I think running OpenBSD is about choices.  People who do not like
to have to make choices and would rather have the choices made for them
run Windows.  I cannot imagine an OpenBSD user that cannot figure out how
to remove material they consider offensive from their system (and in this
case they would have to go out of their way to put it on in the first
place).  I like to make choices.  I don't condone racism or racist ideas,
but I must say removing this port on the basis that it is offensive to
some scares me.  I think the port should stay.  I have chosen not to
install jive in the past, and have no plans to install it in the future,
yet I cannot say how thankful I am that I have been given the oppurtinity
to choose for myself.  This will not affect the OpenBSD project.  This
Jive program is a joke and so is ranting about its existence.

							-Rick


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