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Re: Again?: Mouse in console
Hi all,
I got a private E-Mail from a subscriber of this list
telling me in one short sentence the answer I was
looking for.
It's a bad sign when only flames and flamers
dare speak in a mailing list...
(Not meaning the majority of answers in this particular
post though.)
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:47 -0700, Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote:
> On 2005 Jan 1, at 9:22 AM, Mark Farquaad wrote:
>
> > I also didn't find it in google.
>
> Really? Your answer is in the very first link:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=OpenBSD+mouse+console
>
> http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2001-08/1863.html
>
> And you expect us to take your ``advice'' about the FAQ seriously?
Very funny, *haha*...
Actually I used those exact search terms if I rember right.
Because that link in google seems familiar.
Guess why I didn't pursue that link?
Here's why:
The text in google read:
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Neohapsis Archives - OpenBSD - Mouse sensetivity on console - From ...
LOCATION: Neohapsis / Archives / OpenBSD / Message Index / Mouse sensetivity
on console. From: Steven Myers (stevenm insane.bofhnet ...
archives.neohapsis.com/ archives/openbsd/2001-08/1863.html - 5k -
Cached - Similar pages
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So this link talks about Mouns *sensitivity*.
That's not my problem, I want to know how to enable the mouse.
Even if I had pursued the link, you think the answer is there, yes,
but ONLY if you know the answer: /etc/rc.conf
If you're clueless you could think this might be a special case
of mouse sensitivity in USB mice (I'm using PS/2).
But "egal".
About your other question: "And you expect us to take your ``advice''
about the FAQ seriously?"
I don't expect anything at all around here. - Maybe a little less
flamers, and a few more serious people, that's all.
But to answer your question:
If an idiot tells you how to make a million dollars and you laugh
at him without listening while you really could have made a million
bucks, who's the bigger idiot, the idiot who told a good idea or
the idiot who wouldn't listen because the other is thought of as
an "idiot"?
Marc Espie <espie@nerim.net> wrote:
> man -k mouse
> will give you the answer in about... oh, 30 seconds.
> Specifically, the line that says:
> wsmoused (8/i386) - wsmouse daemon
I don't think so. I tried that now and didn't find any reference
to "/etc/rc.conf" which I consider to be the correct answer to
my question.
I did try "man mouse", but that didn't help.
> Looking at /etc/rc.conf makes this pretty obvious as well.
Yes, how funny, looking at the answer always seems to make
things pretty obvious, doesn't it?
Try to put yourself in my feet: I didn't know the answer.
> It doesn't have to be in the FAQ, because the basic reference
> documentation makes this really obvious.
Nope. Not at all. Especially not *really*.
But that's just my *newbie* opinion I guess..?
Oh, I'm such a *shameless* newbie...
Stefan Kell wrote:
> you should learn, how to configure OpenBSD. Most configuration
> is done in file /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.local.
Yep, you're absolutetly right. Thanks a lot for your answer.
You know, I read most of the FAQ, many manpages and almost
one book on OpenBSD. I'm absolutetly positive I read this several
times. Just when I forgot, I couldn't remember where to find it
in a hurry or where to look it up.
The thing with these things, which makes them so anoying is:
You don't set out in the morning to study how to set up your
mouse in OpenBSD... You're in the middle of some big complicated
task (for you) and suddenly you *need* copy & paste of the mouse.
Then you realize there's no mousepointer on this installation,
then, trying not to forget what you wanted to write and copy & paste,
you try to find out how to install that *stupid* mouse in a hurry...
You turn to the FAQ, don't find it etc., etc...
Juan J. Martinez wrote:
> Probably this list is not quite friendly, so rely on your friendly,
> friendly tool: man.
> Let's say you try 'man -k mouse'.
Yes, "man" is a friendly tool, unfortunately it's not adequate for
every information distribution job.
But using the -k option with man is something I should learn to
use more, even if it wouldn't have given me the answer "/etc/rc.conf"
that I was looking for in this case.
> The 'ask to the friendly misc list' it's my last option.
No doubt, considering the "friendlyness" of this list. ;-/
Thanks a lot for your friendly advice in this non-friendly list!
:-))
Happy new year to you too! :-)
Greetings,
Mark