Re: Are the FSF helpful?

["Dom De Vitto" <dom@DeVitto.com>]

My point was that Stallman predates Linus, and if it were not for
Stallman, and the FSFs work, Linus, and many others wouldn't have gotten
off the ground.  But the name is unimportant compared to the thing.

Remember:
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone,
  "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less. 
  
"The question is," said Alice,
  "whether you can make words mean different things." 
  
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty,
  "which is to be master--that's all." 
  
Lewis Carroll; "Through the Looking-Glass and what Alice found there";
(1872) 
   
Which neatly paraphrases Theo, on why OpenBSD is Open.

Can we all shut the fuck up now?
Dom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael W Mitton [mailto:mmitton@hmcon.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:01 PM
To: Dom De Vitto
Subject: Re: Are the FSF helpful?


That's nice.  So he wrote GCC.  Is OpenBSD now GNU/OpenBSD?  They use
GCC too.  And what happens if Joe Troll makes JTCC and Linux starts
using that.  Is that enough reason to call it JT/Linux?  

Calling Linux GNU/Linux because Linux GCC one of the most stupid reasons
I've ever heard.  I agree it got to the point where Linux as most of us
know it is unusable with all of the GNU packages, but the embedded stuff
works just fine without it.  And with busybox and a replacement libc,
which I haven't seen but was referred to by art@ today ) all that's left
is the fact that it was compiled by GCC.  No reason to call it
GNU/Linux. 

-Michael 

On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:04, Dom De Vitto wrote: 
> Richard wrote GCC, so unless you think Linus could have written the 
> kernel in turbo pascal...
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> Dom
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> Of Chris Hedemark
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:24 PM
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> On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 12:15 AM, anonymous wrote:
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> > After all, if it wasn't for Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds would 
> > be
> > mumbling "Ya want fries with that burger?" at the Helsinki
McDonalds.
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> And if it weren't for Linus Torvalds, many of us would be saying
> "Richard WHO?"
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> Chances are, one of the *BSD's would be the darling of big business
> today instead.
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> Chris Hedemark .. Hillsborough, NC .. http://yonderway.com Homeland 
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