I think you got two issues in here that you should think about seperately: - buy it or do it yourself? - Athlon or PIII? If you want the stability of a PIII system but do it yourself you can easily set up something with a rock-stable BX board like ASUS CUBX and a PIII from 550 MHz up. (AFAIK BX boards end at 850 MHz???) Ragnar